How old is too old?
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(02-28-2017, 04:02 AM)Wdubz Wrote: WOW!

Tons of great advice. I appreciate you guys taking the time to help me out.


(02-27-2017, 03:15 AM)Wdubz Wrote: What's up guys,

I'd like to start this out by saying how much I love this site and forum. So many of you are killing it out there, so I feel like you're the perfect group to ask:

(one more disclaimer: I know a lot of this is pretty situational and will depend on a variety of factors looks/financial situation/mobility etc)

At what point do you think a guy should scale back the international swooping and try to plant roots somewhere (or is it even necessary to 'plant roots' anymore)?

I know that's vague, so I'll use my current situation as an example. 

I'm almost 28. The fear of turning 30 is kicking my ass in pretty much all aspects of life. I'm stressed out about my job because, while it pays the bills, I hate it. I also can't help thinking that I only have about 2 more years of creeping the night life before it's socially unacceptable and I end up that weird older guy hitting on 21 year olds (I don't think that's weird personally, but I keep thinking about the stigma).

While my life is pretty good, there's still so much more that I want to do before I can hang my boots and say I had a good run.

I'm just doing life right now. Trying to be Mr. Stability. No flavor. 

I had a great taste of it when I was in Spain for a few months, but it went by in a flash. That was almost 3 years ago, and I've been a corporate cog ever since. 

I'm losing my zest for life guys. I'm trying to figure out what I need to do to get that feeling back.

I'd love to hear from some of the older guys on here. How has the game life changed for you since turning 30+?

Am I nuts for thinking I've only got about 2 years left to slum it in hostels and swoop ONS's in strange lands overseas?

If you were in my shoes (28, frustrated corporate drone, no trust fund, suffocating), what would you do?




***Again, I know this is vague. I'm not even sure what answers I'm hoping to find, but I'd love to hear any feedback, good or bad... or vague)***

Thanks in advance for any feedback.

(02-27-2017, 04:14 AM)Bizzy Wrote: I'm not almost 30 in fact just turned 20, but I know that  it would be a horrible idea to start limiting the way you want to live your life based on social stigma.  "Once in a while it really hits people that they don't have to experience the world in the way they have been told to"~Alan Keightley.  Social stigma not only puts people in a box on how we are all supposed to live,  but it ruins adventure and joy . Like THC states it takes courage to be honest to yourself and to follow your heart, but once you do it , you won't regret it.   Enjoy this moment man,  because this moment is your life

(02-27-2017, 05:14 AM)20Nation Wrote: I'm about your age and I have actually had similar thoughts. I recently met this Filipina girl (the one who is famous for her hotness) and maybe its jolting me out of my reality that I may have found a quality girl to settle down with. I've had thoughts like slowing down, but I've been traveling for so long and had so many good times with girls and now have a notch count that I feel is too high.

That being said, if you guys watched the super bowl you probably know Tom Brady is about 40 years old. He's still in a way at the prime of his life, girls go crazy over him, had one of the best years statistically of his life, etc. I used to think when I hit 30, that would be it for chasing girls. Then, I see THC (who is a bit older than me), killing it with girls and having a blast. I think you shouldn't look at it as an age thing, you should look at it as a (do you feel you will miss out on something if you settle down now). 28 is young these days, especially if you eat right (like Tom Brady). So, I wouldn't worry about anything but going after exactly what you want to do. The world has become a place where it's so easy to make money (at least six figures) if you put in the work at any age (trades, programming, business, and a million other ways.

TRT
I think a big factor for men settling down are testosterone levels going down. I have been on Test and I can tell you, chasing girls becomes much better when you are on it. Approaching girls is easier, sex with girls is more attractive and satisfying. Now that older guys are getting on TRT (testosterone replacement therapy), living this type of lifestyle even into 50's is attractive. You also look at what older guys are doing in South East Asia... sleeping with hot 18 year old girls (age difference isn't as big of a deal over here) and you can understand why 28 is still ridiculously young. When guys age their T levels go down, if you are on TRT, you can say goodbye to this side effect and feel young for way longer.

Another thing to think about, is that you can much more easily further your career with a serious relationship than you could constantly chasing pussy (and traveling the world in my case).

Hope these answers help you out a bit

You're a champion. This is EXACTLY what got me started down my path to the cube farm too... met a hot ass girl who's great long term material. These thought didn't happen overnight. I used to know exactly where my balls were. Between the micro wins at work and the cool things my girl does for me, things started add up. So, I can totally relate with you minus the travel. My notch count is decent (nowhere near yours though I'm sure lol), and I think that might be what led me down this path to comfortville. I got some serious game burnout after 6+ years of consistently going out 3+ nights a week and running daygame and Tinder on top of that.

Haha love the Tom Brady analogy. Maybe I should upgrade my role models to guys who are consistently killing it well past their thirties (if only I could find some non-celebrity examples. I'll start following THC more closely lol).

I'm with you on the money aspect. That's one thing I need to CONSTANTLY remind myself. I intentionally took a demanding sales job when I had easier options with more 'prestigious' companies, but I walked away from the slow and steady corporate climb to learn how to build a book of business from the ground up. Funny how corporate derails yours thoughts though. I've been out of touch with my goal of building a business for a while now. I need to keep what you said about money in mind... it's easy to hit 6 figs if you put in the work early on.

I LOVE that you brought up TRT. This is constantly on my mind and when my libido goes I'm definitely going this route.The only thing that worries me is that my hair is going to fall out when I eventually go this route. I'll deal with that when the time comes lol. Another thing, I'd love to hear your tips on TRT abroad Wink



I guess my point is, I wish I was the career/marriage type, because I would be so happy right now. I'm jealous of my friends who are climbing the corporate ladder and are really only living 2 days a week, but it doesn't bother them.

Rinse, repeat, retire, die.

I guess I'm just not wired that way. Maybe I'm unrealistic.

(02-27-2017, 05:33 AM)Dash Wrote: It all depends on what your goals are. Everyone is different.

Do you want to get married?

Do you want kids?

When do you want to get married?

Do you want to be an old dad?

Do you want to have enough years to enjoy and impart wisdom on your grandkids?

25-30 - When most ppl settle down

30-35 - Nice sweet spot

35-40 - Slightly on the later side

40+ Older side of things

Having read your post I can tell you still have a lot left you want to do and experience before settling down.

If I were you I would quit your job and go live abroad for 3-5 years. Live it up and kill it.

Then after that maybe you will feel its time to settle down.

Unless Latin America, Southeast Asia and probably Eastern Europe change a ton, guys will be able to travel and bang hotties easily until 50's assuming they stay in shape, dress well and are well groomed.

Even when you get 60+ can still get young tail. Only difference if they will def be with you for lifestyle gain.

Haha this is where it gets fun....

1. No
2. fuck no
3. never
4. nah
5. I think we'll be living in bunkers by then (jk... kind of)

I know most guys say that'll change, but I'm absolutely 100% positive the family life isn't for me. I could get behind lifetime monogamy once I've gotten my fill of experiences, but putting a license on love never sat well with me.

So if I'm reading this right, I haven't even hit my prime yet and I'm already freaking out lol.

Regarding leaving the job and going and killing it, you're a beast. This is the type of mindset I used to have and I need to get back to it. It's funny how what ended up being an experiment (settling down in one city and job) turned into a lifestyle. Comfort is a slow burn.

Thanks for the advice man.

(02-27-2017, 10:48 AM)TravelHardcore Wrote:
(02-27-2017, 03:15 AM)Wdubz Wrote: At what point do you think a guy should scale back the international swooping and try to plant roots somewhere (or is it even necessary to 'plant roots' anymore)?

There is no hard cut-off age. This lifestyle can be done for much longer than you'd think. Like 20N says, you'll slow down when your T-level go down. This happens with age but differs a lot from person to person.

Don't try to be what you're not; if that drive is there, ignoring it will make you feel miserable.

(02-27-2017, 03:15 AM)Wdubz Wrote: I'm almost 28. The fear of turning 30 is kicking my ass in pretty much all aspects of life.

Am I nuts for thinking I've only got about 2 years left to slum it in hostels and swoop ONS's in strange lands overseas?

Yeah man. You're nuts. This is what will happen, you will turn 30 and nothing will have changed, it's just a number.

But I can relate because I had the same concerns when I was your age 27-28. Somehow I got in my head that my best years were about to be over. This couldn't be further from the truth. The best years in my life have been from 30-35 and with no sign of slowing down. 

Age is much less an issue in Latin-America, Asia, etc. I'm dating girls 18-21 all the time.

Where you do have a point is that you can't be doing the hostel game indefinitely, at a certain point increasing age has to come with increased resources. There's a difference between a 20 year old who can't afford a hotel and a 40 year old who can't. 

(02-27-2017, 03:15 AM)Wdubz Wrote: While my life is pretty good, there's still so much more that I want to do before I can hang my boots and say I had a good run.

I'm just doing life right now. Trying to be Mr. Stability. No flavor. 

I had a great taste of it when I was in Spain for a few months, but it went by in a flash. That was almost 3 years ago, and I've been a corporate cog ever since. 

I'm losing my zest for life guys. I'm trying to figure out what I need to do to get that feeling back.

I'd love to hear from some of the older guys on here. How has the game life changed for you since turning 30+?

If you were in my shoes (28, frustrated corporate drone, no trust fund, suffocating), what would you do?

I went through the same thing as you Wdubz.

What you need to do is listen to yourself; you already know what you really want. You just have issues breaking conformity. This age concern is just one of the million excuses your mind comes up with not to follow your dreams.

I've had them myself also. I tried to play the "conformity game" too. I had a great girlfriend, a steady job, "security"... but I was feeling miserable and depressed. There was so much more I wanted from life. This just wasn't for me. 

Life is for the risk takers. 

You need to live your life. Not the life others expect from you. 

28 is young and perfect age to start. I started full time traveling at 30. No desire to slow down after 5 years.


My man!

I was hoping you'd chime in brother.

It's good to know that you had the same thoughts but ended up crushing it and forgetting about them.

Haha, yeah I don't know why I used hostel game as my example. Even when I was 23 that wasn't my favorite way to go about things. A guy can only bang in so many broom closets/park benches.



Man, this part  
(02-27-2017, 10:48 AM)TravelHardcore Wrote: What you need to do is listen to yourself; you already know what you really want. You just have issues breaking conformity. This age concern is just one of the million excuses your mind comes up with not to follow your dreams.
really hit home.

I wasn't like this 2 years ago. I got a taste of the good life but I thought it was just a phase.

I'm lucky in that I fixed my girl problem for the most part (I feel like once a guy knows he'll never go a month without pussy if he really want s to get laid, there's no reason to sweat girls) early on. What I failed to do in the 6 years that I chased girls was focus on ANYTHING else.

So, for the last two years I've been trying to fill in those gaps. Business mostly. In the process of learning about business I let myself become the business. Bland. That's where I fucked up.

I'm going to stew on this for a while. I didn't know that you were in the same spot at one point. I'm glad to know that there's a solution, I just have to find mine.

Thank you for the advice brother.

By the way, thanks to everyone for the replies so far. I've got a couple follow ups to do but I've gotta be well rested for the cube tomorrow. Tons of great advice, thanks again guys.

Trt can make a HUGE difference if done right with little to no side effects.  It seems that guys who stay active and act like horny teenagers tend to feel better longer and alot of that is mental. But if your over 30 and wanna feel 18 again then 250 mg of sust 250 every 7 to 10 days is a miracle.  20 mg of winny everyday for up to 8 weeks does great at raising natural test too. If u bump winny to 50 mg a day broken up every 8 hours then u will be impressed greatly on how amazing u will feel and look in 3 to 6 weeks if u work out. Then drop winny for 4 to 6 weeks and do a liver cleanse with milk thistle and u get all the good stuff and no side effects.  Where people screw up is running oral too long and don't cleanse there body.
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live your life and dgaf about what anyone else thinks
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#23
I'm in my 30's, but I still feel the vigor of an 18 year old.

A man is only as old as the woman he feels.
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id say look at Russell brand. he didn't choose (notice i didnt say settle) to stay with one women til he was 40. and now has a kid. he wasn't in his peak of womenising til he was 32-38.
I read a man is in his prime 36-38 y/o.

Tom torero is 37/38 he pulls hot 17/18/19-21 year olds regually. its Europe so its legal.

what is society?... its just people man. its us... don't know about the other guys on here but there is no one right answer. the is no 1 right way to live. my plan is to fuck every kind of girl I want 8s, 9,s 9.5s etc. threesomes etc then go from there.

I don't wanna walk down the street with my gf and see girls who are way hotter or see a 9 and think dam ive never fucked a girl that hot, cause given half the chance id cheat on her to have that experience. I wanna be like yeah Ive fucked girls like that. I could go upto her right now and chat her up and theres a 50% chance shes give me her number, go on date, fuck me. I could....but id rather spend time with my girl. that's where I want to get too. but that's just me. what do you want? cause many guys will give you many different answers to that questions and not one of them is gonna be "the right way to live". its what you feel is right.

basically: Do what you want to do and fuck everyone else. if you were pulling hot girls and gaming at 38,48,58 id tip my hat off to you. and if you had a gf/wife at 38,48, 58 id do the same, ultimately none gives a fuck, i know guys who pull girls regually i couldnt care less. i know guys with gf/wives i couldn't care less. honestly nonebody cares man not saying this is a nasty way. the next person who walks past you probably doesn't give a fuck about you and you probally dont give a fuck about them either. your gonna die so live your life the way you want. Do what you want for you than sarcifing it for what "I" (society)or another 7billion people (society)think. and you cant please 7billion people...but...you can please yourself Wink 

ps. I don't like the word "settle" its more like "I choose from abundance"
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(10-21-2017, 07:57 PM)Cheeky_Chappy Wrote: id say look at Russell brand. he didn't choose (notice i didnt say settle) to stay with one women til he was 40. and now has a kid. he wasn't in his peak of womenising til he was 32-38.
I read a man is in his prime 36-38 y/o.

Tom torero is 37/38 he pulls hot 17/18/19-21 year olds regually. its Europe so its legal.

what is society?... its just people man. its us... don't know about the other guys on here but there is no one right answer. the is no 1 right way to live. my plan is to fuck every kind of girl I want 8s, 9,s 9.5s etc. threesomes etc then go from there.

I don't wanna walk down the street with my gf and see girls who are way hotter or see a 9 and think dam ive never fucked a girl that hot, cause given half the chance id cheat on her to have that experience. I wanna be like yeah Ive fucked girls like that. I could go upto her right now and chat her up and theres a 50% chance shes give me her number, go on date, fuck me. I could....but id rather spend time with my girl. that's where I want to get too. but that's just me. what do you want? cause many guys will give you many different answers to that questions and not one of them is gonna be "the right way to live". its what you feel is right.

basically: Do what you want to do and fuck everyone else. if you were pulling hot girls and gaming at 38,48,58 id tip my hat off to you. and if you had a gf/wife at 38,48, 58 id do the same, ultimately none gives a fuck, i know guys who pull girls regually i couldnt care less. i know guys with gf/wives i couldn't care less. honestly nonebody cares man not saying this is a nasty way. the next person who walks past you probably doesn't give a fuck about you and you probally dont give a fuck about them either. your gonna die so live your life the way you want. Do what you want for you than sarcifing it for what "I" (society)or another 7billion people (society)think. and you cant please 7billion people...but...you can please yourself Wink 

ps. I don't like the word "settle" its more like "I choose from abundance"



Man,

This thread is the gift that keeps on giving! I haven't bee on in a while so I was surprised to see all of this awesome advice after logging back in. Thanks a ton guys. I'm gonna re-read this whole thing and get the work!

Thanks again fellas
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