Minsk, Belarus
#1
Greeting Comrades,

Since RVF will be turning into a God zone for the foreseeable future where talk of sex outside of marriage is now verboten, I think it will be a good idea, therefore to transfer the Minsk discussion link to this forum - https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-39882-page-11.html

There are lots of good reports, advice and tips to help you navigate yourself through Minsk. I have met many people from RVF who have passed through and had a blast. Minsk is indeed a tough nut to crack and if you are living and working here long term like me, you will enjoy the fruits of your labour in the Workers' Paradise. 

The last posts from traveler97 are very accurate. If you are coming for a quick bang, do yourself a favour and skip Minsk altogether. Sponsorship and P4P are big players here. Skip the clubs too mentioned in the thread. 

If anyone has any other queries, just drop me a line. I'm currently in a mini relationship with a local girl.
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#2
I've been thinking about checking out Minsk in summer. Haven't researched it besides changing my Tinder location, but I liked what I saw.
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#3
Canadians can visit Belarus visa free, up to 30 days.
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(06-01-2019, 05:48 AM)Traktor Wrote: Greeting Comrades,

Since RVF will be turning into a God zone for the foreseeable future where talk of sex outside of marriage is now verboten, I think it will be a good idea, therefore to transfer the Minsk discussion link to this forum - https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-39882-page-11.html

There are lots of good reports, advice and tips to help you navigate yourself through Minsk. I have met many people from RVF who have passed through and had a blast. Minsk is indeed a tough nut to crack and if you are living and working here long term like me, you will enjoy the fruits of your labour in the Workers' Paradise. 

The last posts from traveler97 are very accurate. If you are coming for a quick bang, do yourself a favour and skip Minsk altogether. Sponsorship and P4P are big players here. Skip the clubs too mentioned in the thread. 

If anyone has any other queries, just drop me a line. I'm currently in a mini relationship with a local girl.

I'm glad did you appreciate my posts, I like to be as sincere as possible.

Even if I won't go back to Minsk soon, the city will always have a special place my heart.
Unforgettable memories.

Next stop: learning Russian and find a good independent location job.

I made on the Italian forum a 25'000 words datasheet about Minsk, I wanted to post it on RVF, but after the change, I think I'll post it here.

But first, I have to translate it in English...
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#5
if your english you can visit visa free for upto 30days but...you have to fly in you cant take the bus.
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#6
This post was originally made for the RooshV forum but since now the thread has been deleted/archived, i thought it would be a good idea to re-post it here, giving a good perspective on how Minsk changed over the last 2 decades.

Minsk: 10 years later

Belarus is still known as the last dictatorship of Europe. For many it's a secretive state, a preserved relic of the Soviet way of life. Well, guess what: no more!. Globalization and feminism are slowly, but surely, transforming the local society.

Having recently returned from a week long visit to Minsk, the capital of Belarus, after an absence of almost 10 years, I couldn't feel but shocked with the transformation that I experienced, most notably in terms of  how girls behave and their approach to men. To get the record straight I must say that I've spent most of the previous decade in Belarus and even lived in Minsk for a couple of years. Then, in 2010, my professional duties took me elsewhere and I wasn't able to come back until recently. I was prepared to see some change but what I've experienced was beyond my wildest expectations.

Surely the recently implemented five (now 30) days visa free program brought an increasing exposure to foreign visitors. But that, by itself, does not justify the changes that I've witnessed. Westernization is rampant and global "cultural trends" increasingly visible. I didn't go to the city to "game" (opera and classical music are my new "hobbies") and please spare me the already heard arguments "You got older, that's what changed". Yes, I agree that I now see things with different "eyes". But the changes are real, particularly in a society that, in many aspects, has not changed at all for the last 30 years.  Here's a list of the top 5 most relevant changes:

1)The foreigner status (often) works against you

My first visit to Belarus was in 1999. At that time, very few foreigners were visiting the country. The small number that did were mostly mature men from the Middle East. I was young, tall, European and learned Russian fast. I felt like a movie star and got attention everywhere I went. I actually didn't even need to game. Girls were after me all the time and the difficulty was to chose which one to take home. Fast forward 20 years and the scenario is completely different. With the 30 days visa free program, the volume of male visitors has increased significantly (from all parts of the world). Soon the first low cost airline will start regular flights to Minsk (WizzAir from Budapest). This means that being a foreigner lost its added value in the eyes of the girls. In fact, they are starting to see them as an annoyance, as it's clear that many of those tourists are visiting with the sole intent of getting laid and practice the so called "sex tourism". If you are a visiting foreigner, you have to convince the local ladies that you are not  like "all the others that are looking for one night stands". If you don't speak Russian, that may be a hard job.
 
2) Your money is nothing special

Back in 1999 I took 300 US Dollars for a 3 weeks long stay. By the end of it, I still brought some money back. It's not just that products and services were cheaper. The thing is that there were not a lot of options available on where to spend money (theater, concerts, entertainment were  inexpensive and the offer limited). 20 years later, unless you are a very rich person, your material wealth will not be noticeable in Minsk anymore and you may even find the city "expensive" (you don't impress a girl by taking her to Lido). Young locals (especially guys) are starting to develop a sense of fashion and have easy access to main international fashion brands. They also have increasing buying power and many of them work for international companies (mainly IT). So unless you are really well-to-do, your material well-being (that was always a factor that attracted local girls) is irrelevant or even a point in your disfavor. A guy working in and European corporate, with a standard salary, is not in an advantageous position versus the native folks. Local girls have options and your middle-class European salary is nothing that will make you standout.

3) Shopping malls everywhere

In 1999 (and most of the 2000's first decade) to go to a shopping mall in Belarus meant visiting a space with small stalls where everything was sold. Many products were counterfeited (I lost count of the illegal copies of video-games that I bought) and there were no official brand stores, with the exception of Benetton. Nowadays there are huge modern shopping malls everywhere in Minsk. The old type of shopping centers are slowly fading away into oblivion. Many of the articles in those modern shopping centers come at a premium price. The problem is that ladies love to shop at those places so while in the past a shopping trip with a girl was an easy, risk-free activity, nowadays she may easily blow up your budget in a couple of hours. Never forget: men should pay for everything, even if the girl "loves you very much"Smile

4) Top girls are gone

Yes, you may still be visiting Belarus these days and thinking "Wow, the girls here are crazy hot!". Well, actually, they were even better in the past. And a lot more of them!. This is not just an opinion: it's a fact and the justification is simple. In the late 90's / early 00's girls had fewer options to escape the grey, oppressive routine of day-to-day life in Belarus. Visas to Western countries were extremely hard to get and the former Soviet countries were not much better than Belarus itself. You could easily see 10's roaming down the streets of Minsk or working in cramped sales booths or as waiters in restaurants. Damn, I even bagged a Playmate and a Miss Belarus during those times. With the years passing, the context changed: life in big Russian cities created many mini-oligarchs and they became an obvious choice for the better looking girls. Schengen visas became a bit easier to get but, most of all, the Emirates "appeal" wiped out almost completely the top layer of the most attractive girls in Minsk. There are a lot of options abroad for the exquisite beauties that  Belarus produces. The ones that stay are now dictating the rules of what they want and who they want.

5) Online dating is ruined

Don't get me wrong: I'm not saying that you should go to Belarus to date online. However, in the past, there were a few online dating tools that, if well explored, could fast-track you to meet an amazing number of beauties. Actually, I often used those 2 or 3 online tools to optimize my time and get as many dates as possible in one day (knowing that the local culture of flaking is widespread). Mamba or LovePlanet were great places to start if you wanted to secure a steamy winter night in Minsk. Nowadays a gazillion number of applications is available, with many of them being nothing more than a validation tool for local girls. Others, like Tinder, are often used to convince the "naive" visitor to take the girl to an expensive place or to a bar / disco where she will get a commission for every customer she brings in. It takes a lot more effort to navigate through the scammers and "validation profiles" until you manage to get to talk to a "real" girl. During Autumn/ Winter visits "street gamers" will struggle and the "night scene" is overcrowded with "thirsty" players. The days of getting a girl, that you met online, to visit your flat in the midst of a winter snowstorm are, now, nothing more than old memories.

With that said the reality is that generalizations are always flawed. Of course you can still go to Minsk and have a great time. The city is quite pleasant to visit and there are still plenty of available girls. Prepare yourself well, learn some Russian, be "manly", set some dates even before you arrive, adjust to local habits (no sex on first date, etc) and give yourself some time (short visits will most likely fail to produce results). You will still be successful. What I'm saying is that your experience will be a bit different from the (my) good old days.

Do svidania.
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#7
I went to Minsk last summer as soon as it opened up for visa free travel.  I was pleasantly surprised and I'll go back one day.

The Pros:  
People were generally friendly.
More people spoke English then I anticipated.
The capital was not inundated with tourists like Tallinn or Ljublijana.
Food and service was top notch.
A decent, orderly society that is very European and not overly "diverse" in any Western way.

The Cons:
The has been a heavy influx of Middle Eastern sex tourists which sours a place on visiting men.
The choices of comfortable accommodations is small (I recommend the Doubletree, but the Mercure seems promising.)
The weather turned from shorts to coat and scarf cold on a dime in September.
The is a 30 day limit to the visa free scheme which is only usable at the airport.  However, you can fly out and fly back in the next day to        reset the clock.
The immigration authorities requires proof of health insurance and if you cannot produce it to their satisfaction, you have to buy it at the airport.
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