Miami Beach 2019 Mini Data Sheet
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I had to attend a work related social event in Miami Beach so I invited a friend that has a client in Boca Raton, FL to split a condo for a week so we could check out the sites and do some gaming. This is a quick report, aimed toward the newbie who has not been to Miami Beach and is considering going there and only covers my direct experience. We typically looked for restaurants with a bar that facilitated social interaction. The TL;DR version is to save your money and go someplace else


The first thing to understand about Miami Beach is that it is an island, and a separate city from Miami. In the 90’s the fashion industry was ascendent in Miami Beach, or more specifically, the southern portion of Miami Beach known as South Beach, with dozens of boutiques, fashion brands, and models walking up and down Ocean Drive all day long. Gianni Versace famously chose to live in Miami Beach. This Miami Beach is long gone. There are some models left, but they usually come in for a day or two to do a shoot at a hotel or the beach and then they are gone.


As late as 2006 MTV did a reality tv series on models in South Beach called 8th and Ocean. However, the reality is that in 2019, South Beach is a tourist trap for out of towners and what is left of the old fashion and model scene has moved into more hidden enclaves and basically left Miami Beach.


Miami Beach can generally be divided into North Beach, Mid-Beach and South Beach. We stayed in mid-beach as it was cheaper and we couldn’t find a two bedroom condo in South Beach for our dates. There is a free trolly that you can use to get around if you want to save on the Ubers. I used it several times when I had the extra time to wait for the trolley. Miami Beach has a mobile app where you can see the routes and actual locations of the trolleys which makes it much easier to catch them. If you are focusing on Miami Beach then you can get around by walking, Trolley and Ubers. No need for a car.


The high season for Miami Beach is the winter, we were there in early May, basically the end of the season, but there were still a lot of people and parties going on.


There also used to be a huge club scene with well known house music DJs coming to town, especially during the Winter Music Conference now known as Miami Music Week. We found one house club that had a good sex ratio, named “Do Not Sit on the Furniture” that we used as a venue change from the bars we were going to. However, most of the good places are one time nights and pool parties now.


So, the worst news about South Beach is that the famous main drag of Ocean Drive is lined with tourist trap restaurants serving large sugary drinks to ham-beasts wearing thongs with mesh dresses. It appears that every “I don’t need a man” social group of fat black ladies from Atlanta goes on an annual pilgrimage to South Beach and gets hammered until they are doing their finest twerkfest up and down the streets of South Beach. Now, if this is your target market, then you have found your mother lode.


We did go to some ‘famous’ restaurant called News Cafe on Ocean Drive but it was shit with crappy overpriced food. I did open a group of Spanish chicks from Barcelona and probably could have partied with them as they were chatty but I didn’t push the encounter.


Here is a good blog post from a dude talking about South Beach: https://imoutoftown.com/2018/03/05/south...-happened/


The Beach
Miami Beach has a long beach facing the Atlantic with a boardwalk and walkway where you can walk and check out the local action. You can walk for miles and peek into the resorts to find out where the action is. I went walking/running/working-out (It has a small muscle beach) down the path on a few days by myself and one day with my wing. It was the most reliable way to encounter a lot of people and get some interaction after receiving an IOI. I met a couple of chicks this way while rolling solo in workout gear. However, when I was with my wing, for some reason we let out a ‘cops’ vibe or something and really didn’t get any IOIs but a couple of people that were selling dime bags ran off and said something to the effect of they thought we were cops haha. I have no doubt that if I spent a couple of weeks going up and down the boardwalk and beach exercising that I would end up dating a few girls as this was the area where I had the best reception when talking to people. It also seems to weed out the ham-beasts as they stay to the tourist restaurants on Ocean Drive and thereabouts. I remember a thread on RVF where Linux mentioned that he pulled a chick off the beach. I don’t have the bodyfat level to do beach pulls at the moment but it is probably worth a shot if that is your game.


At the southern end of the beach it curves around and there is an outdoor bar at Smith and Wollensky’s that my wing and I went to once. This was the last day we were there otherwise I would have hit that bar a few more times.


There is a language center in South Beach, or the north part of South Beach, EF International Language Campus, 2469 Collins Ave, Miami Beach, FL 33140. Jesus this place was full of serious talent. However, there didn’t seem to be a way to hangout there without being perceived as a creeper. Especially for two dudes in their late 40’s. There was honestly more ass there than anywhere else I found in South Beach. All foreign students learning english.


Espanola Way
There is a street in South Beach named Espanola Way where there are pricey restaurants, mostly targeted toward tourists where we ate several times, it was one of the few places that I actually did see models, however, the layout is not conducive to game as there are very few bars where you can post up and chat people. If you had some serious ability to open, you could do cold approaches in the street there. I did not receive any IOIs as far as I can remember, on Espanola Way.


Lincoln Road Mall
My wing and I went shopping on Lincoln road mall and he found a shirt to level up with the $300 boutique shirt I was wearing and then we went up and down the Mall going to bars. The only one that had a nice bar where you could open girls was Meat Market Miami Beach (915 Lincoln Rd, Miami Beach, FL 33139) we chatted up some girls and we mentioned we were going to Do Not Sit On The Furniture and they actually showed up there later that night.


We also spent some time in Finnegan’s Road which had some hot waitresses but the rest of the crowd was typical sports bar dudes and couples.


Lincoln Road Mall is area is worth some time to explore but is mostly chain clothing stores with a number of overpriced restaurants with a mix of tourists and locals.


The Miami Beach Edition
The Miami Beach Edition (2901 Collins Ave, Miami Beach, FL 33140) is a hotel with a bar and pool table that had some serious high class action. I was dressed well and I felt I could have brought it up a notch. I didn’t spend enough time there but if I go back will put this place in the nightly rotation.


Other Hotels and Parties
We hit up bars in a few well known hotels with much disappointment. Eden Roc was dead, 1 Hotel looked promising but wasn’t really happening. I think the Fontainebleau Miami Beach might be a place to checkout. Oh, one place that did definitely have good parties but we never made it to was The National. I talked to a couple of people that had been to parties there that said it was lit. Follow Oscar G (was an acquaintance of mine a long time ago) https://www.facebook.com/DjOscarG305/ for intel on good pool parties and house music venues in Miami/Beach. Oscar has a Monday night at Coyo Taco that was cool and it has a bar where you can chat up chicks, 2300 NW Second Ave., Miami. Here is one of the promoters for pool parties: https://www.facebook.com/IndependancePool/


The City of Miami
We went over to a few places in Miami to check out the neighborhoods. We went to Little Havana, to a place called Ball and Chain which didn’t have much action during the week. If you have good salsa game this is a place to go. Check their website for nights with salsa and I think they had a ladies night.


We went to Brickell during the week and found a ladies night at Blackbird Ordinary (729 SW 1st Ave, Miami, FL 33130). I found it by talking up a girl at Dolores But You Can Call Me Lolita (1000 S Miami Ave, Miami, FL 33130) which has a rooftop bar for the after work crowd and probably has a good crowd on the weekends. Brickell has shopping and some good men’s boutiques and is basically an office/professional zone. Probably worth more time.


Gyms
If you are going to be in South Beach for more than a week I would recommend getting a one month membership to Equinox, https://www.equinox.com/clubs/florida/southbeach, as it is the most premium gym in the area with a serious social scene, as told to me by a couple of attractive fitness chicks and I did go check it out, otherwise Crunch Fitness has day passes ($35) and weekly passes and a good gym scene. There is a minor-league muscle beach in South Beach where I worked out a few times and did get a couple of IOIs.


I am quite sure that there are people that have spent more time in Miami Beach and know other venues so please add in the thread.


Personally, I don’t think I will ever go back to Miami Beach as the cost/benefit ratio is not really there.
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Nice datasheet. I want to spend some time there. There is a part of me that wants to move there, if I have to be working in USA. The flights to latin america are direct and cheap not to mention a lot of hot latinas. I'm seriously considering looking for a job over there.
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Went there in 2003 for Spring Break, it sounds like nothing has changed that much since then. I thought that I was just some stupid kid who always "missed the party bus" as Dave Attell used to say. From this, I would prefer to spend my time in regular Miami or Key West if I am going in that direction.
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(05-29-2019, 05:45 AM)20Nation Wrote: Nice datasheet. I want to spend some time there. There is a part of me that wants to move there, if I have to be working in USA. The flights to latin america are direct and cheap not to mention a lot of hot latinas. I'm seriously considering looking for a job over there.

If you are involved in Latin American business then this place is the hub. I was in a startup based in Latin America and they relocated to Miami to be close to investors and to have access to all the flights to Latin America. Same for Open English which was in Venezuela and moved (before shit was really that bad) to Miami after they got a $100M investment. Spanish is spoken everywhere in Miami and I spoke probably as much spanish as english while I was there.

If I had a business that could bankroll me then I might live there, if I was going to LatAm a lot, but otherwise the cost doesn't seem to be worth it. Again, if you had a social circle there then it would be game changing. I think I could boot up a social circle from the tech startup scene there given a month or two, but I don't see myself living there.

JolietJake: yeah, I constantly did feel like there was a secret party going on somewhere and I couldn't find it.....then realized that yeah, the good parties are all private and cost $25/$100 to get into and you have to find out well in advance. The street life/clubs are just busted in South Beach. Even Miami had that feel to a point. But if we had a good, current Data Sheet on Miami then that could make going there more efficient for fun and gaming.
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#5
I love Miami, one of my favorite cities to visit. I don't have enough up to date info for a datasheet, but a few pointers from my most recent experiences.

Hotel pools/bars - These usually have great ratios and are underrated places to meet really good looking girls. My favorites are The Delano, SLS, Fontainbleu, and 1 Hotel, in that order. They usually clear out by 1am as people head to clubs, but between 9 and midnight they can be a goldmine. You should dress up (blazer is a borderline must) and drinks will run $20 a pop. Beyond that, there's little downside to starting out your night at one of these spots.

Clubs - I've been to Story, Space, and E11EVEN. Liv is the top club from what I've heard (+ the women in the lobby of Fontainbleu are absolute stunners), just pretty difficult to get into if you're not rolling with girls already. Story reminded me of a typical Vegas club with a better ratio. Space is ratchet as fuck, but if you just want to get laid, it is difficult not to pull there. E11EVEN is a glorified strip club, though if you're with a good group, it can be insane. In my experience, Miami clubs aren't the best ROI except if you're really looking to party hard.

Downtown Miami/Wynwood - One of my favorite bars in the world is Blackbird Ordinary in Brickell. I've been there multiple times and always had an incredible time. It's open really late and even at 4am it is going strong. Meanwhile, Wynwood is pretty hipster, though you meet a good variety of girls and it is pretty easy to start a convo.
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