Pandemic slumping??
#1
Hey.

New to the forums but have been day gaming for the past 1-2 years (sense of time completely gone to the pandemic).


I've been in a big slump for the past 2 months. I was doing really well with amazingly stupid approaches adapted from Roosh ("Is that a good laptop?", "Is that an iPhone?"). I took some time off for various reasons. Have been trying to get back into it and it's been messy. Before, I was getting consistent results at cafes, bookstores, and public transport. I was even getting reasonable results on Tinder. Solid dates with 7s+. But for the past few months, I don't know WTF is going on. Just can't seem to get anything decent in the pipeline either in real life or online, girls are flakey, and I am not even coming across decent women in my usual spots. 

And online, I've found women have had a MASSIVE ego. I suspect it coincides with more attention due to the pandemic since more dudes are going online. But 5s and 6s think they're Eva Longoria. Fuck that. 

Wondering if anyone else is similarly slumping these days? To reboot, I am thinking to just be patient and go back to the easy openers that I had success with in the past instead of trying to force openers in places I haven't had good success before. I've never dealt with a slump, so want to know how everyone else approaches it. Especially during these crazy times.

Thanks and be healthy.
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#2
I'm pretty sure anybody who didn't already have a steady rotation or a main girl is slumping right now. Pretty tough out there right now if you are in a place with some form of lockdowns. Not to mention that winter is generally a worse time to pull.

Don't worry about openers that much. When you're just getting into the game, you think that openers are the penultimate moment of the process, when in reality, you should just use whatever you're comfortable with. I'd never open a girl with "is that an iPhone?", but if it works for you, then you can stick with it.

If you're allowed to work remote, the best way to take advantage of this time period is to rent places for a longer period of time (ie: couple weeks to a month) in different cities that you're interested in. It's a great opportunity to explore options outside of your city. Unless you're 100% set on living where you do now, I'd highly recommend looking into this. Could pay dividends in regard to women as well, as many cities are open in various ways (ie: Miami and Scottsdale are more open than NYC), and the game/competition is different in each of them as well.
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#3
Yeah IIRC the OG black guys called winter "cuffing season" because guys and girls would essentially put handcuffs on each other during this time.

Not sure it applies to places where it's now summer though, in the Southern hemisphere.
If you haven't met anyone, I'll assume you're lying (h/t to Teedub from the old forum)
My response to the old "why you losers trash the West?"
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#4
It's natural to slump at some times. I had a great run last year where I hooked up with three new girls in a month online, one of whom was fine as fuck (beautiful Indian girl with green eyes). I then literally ran out of matches in my area and just decided to get back to work. As your game, looks, and location improve the slumps will decrease and you'll be able to pull quality women regularly.

The pandemic being to be blame will depend on the person. I've gotten way more thirst from girls since they're just bored, but I've also had flakes likely related to corona risk (lots of girls here live with their parents). Doing legitimate day game would be way harder and obviously NG doesn't exist anymore.

It's surmountable but yes it is harder and slumps are completely natural.
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#5
I had a woman ask if that was a good book at the laundromat today. She was Puerto Rican so it was like is that a good "buuuuuk" It was Littel's The Company - shout out to the Swoop member who rec'd it.

You might need to evolve beyond an opener from 2007. It was the second time this month a woman has said that to me.

It's also natural to burn out an area. A lot of us move around the world and would suffer the same stagnancy otherwise.
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#6
When they wear masks they might look cute but when they take it off they might not be that cute. Fucking Covid ruined the daygame.
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#7
(12-30-2020, 08:06 AM)battalion Wrote: When they wear masks they might look cute but when they take it off they might not be that cute. Fucking Covid ruined the daygame.

I posted about this before when I did it by accident: I couldn't hear a girl because of the mask, so I asked her to take it off.

Depending on where you are, AFAIK, that's either a small or big (as in the police may fine her) compliance test.
If you haven't met anyone, I'll assume you're lying (h/t to Teedub from the old forum)
My response to the old "why you losers trash the West?"
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#8
I don't know, for me it's kind of self-imposed now, sticking with one main girl. Worked fine for me in the first lockdown, and since the second one is for the long haul in the darkest days of the year, it's still good for me. I could spend the winter dealing with flakes and bitchy attitudes. Or I could just enjoy having Chinese tea made for me, while giving her the sexual education that the Chinese school system neglected.

Haven't been doing anything online in the past month, but before that, there were certainly quite a few girls bored and on apps. Meeting people is "allowed" here even in lockdown, so if they're citing virus fears, it usually just means they're not attracted enough. Since October basically the only feasible "dates" have been to go for a walk, or invite her straight to my home (or both on the same day). Which is not a bad thing, since it easily weeds out anyone who's not attracted in the first place, but it can mean a long time of fishing before I get a bite.

Can't complain anyway, it's the ebb and flow. I've had a pretty good year, especially in the summer. Pandemic, what pandemic? Opportunities to travel will come back at some point, and then I will also be more in the mood for it.
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#9
(12-30-2020, 09:08 AM)Harem Scarem Wrote: I don't know, for me it's kind of self-imposed now, sticking with one main girl. Worked fine for me in the first lockdown, and since the second one is for the long haul in the darkest days of the year, it's still good for me. I could spend the winter dealing with flakes and bitchy attitudes. Or I could just enjoy having Chinese tea made for me, while giving her the sexual education that the Chinese school system neglected.

Exactly what I'm doing except replace Chinese with Polish. its just the way to go right now.

When gyms open back up I'm going to start working out, preparing for Spring/Summer and get ready to be single and travel again.
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#10
(12-30-2020, 09:08 AM)Harem Scarem Wrote: Or I could just enjoy having Chinese tea made for me, while giving her the sexual education that the Chinese school system neglected.

I'm guessing that's a sexual education that NO school system provides (officially speaking).
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#11
Just to give you an example of "the thirst" There's a famous Soi in Pattaya where people go to get short time action with working girls. It was meant to be a buyers market whilst the borders were closed but what people found was that they would go to bars and just get ignored by all the girls.

Why?

They've set up webcams so that thirsty guys from all over the world can buy them "lady drinks" that they can get 40% commission on. Guys are queueing up online and these chicks are filing their nails and chewing gum then taking turns to laugh and flutter their eyelashes into a camera for 20 minutes a time. They are making as much money as they ever did with no need for person to person interaction.

I was in one bar where some simp from the US, pixellated on a small screen... in front of lazy bitches giving him lazy oohs and aahs, dropped $3000 in 3 hours.

Granted thats P4P which is a different world from this forum BUT I think it shows that the future is becoming ever-increasingly incel where men are vying to kiss the asses of women from an impossible distance whilst women get more and more validation online and in their wallet for doing jack squat.

I match with girls on tinder and they always want to know what country I'm in.. Thailand... yeah ha ha but where are you now? .. I'm 2 km away from you.. WhhhaaaAAAAT??!!! Aaaargh You Englaaaand! you COVID!!" I mean I still get enough action but its becoming a weird abstract world that we are living in.

Remember the days when the likes of Gunwitch were setting challenges of 100s of approaches..

"Final Stage - Persistence. You are to engage a legit 8/10 or above on your scale and stay hooked in with her until you get 1 of 3 things: she hits you, she screams for help or you F close, those are your only reasons that you can eject for. Rinse and repeat until you finally F close. This will massively open your eyes as to whats possible and help your confidence"

Now?

we are talking about getting a girl to show us her whole, actual entire face cos that's either a small or a big police fine and therefore a big compliance test win.
Ever Increasingly Incel world..

Do not adjust to .. covid normal or.. new normal.. or whatever.. take your non-adjustment as a medal of valour pinned on your chest. The fuckers want to make us thirsty simps. Fuck. That. Shit.


(Good luck out there men..) >:/
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#12
(12-30-2020, 05:11 PM)Bienvenuto Wrote: Just to give you an example of "the thirst" There's a famous Soi in Pattaya where people go to get short time action with working girls. It was meant to be a buyers market whilst the borders were closed but what people found was that they would go to bars and just get ignored by all the girls.

Why?

They've set up webcams so that thirsty guys from all over the world can buy them "lady drinks" that they can get 40% commission on. Guys are queueing up online and these chicks are filing their nails and chewing gum then taking turns to laugh and flutter their eyelashes into a camera for 20 minutes a time. They are making as much money as they ever did with no need for person to person interaction.

I was in one bar where some simp from the US, pixellated on a small screen... in front of lazy bitches giving him lazy oohs and aahs, dropped $3000 in 3 hours.

Granted thats P4P which is a different world from this forum BUT I think it shows that the future is becoming ever-increasingly incel where men are vying to kiss the asses of women from an impossible distance whilst women get more and more validation online and in their wallet for doing jack squat.

I match with girls on tinder and they always want to know what country I'm in.. Thailand... yeah ha ha but where are you now? .. I'm 2 km away from you.. WhhhaaaAAAAT??!!! Aaaargh You Englaaaand! you COVID!!" I mean I still get enough action but its becoming a weird abstract world that we are living in.

Remember the days when the likes of Gunwitch were setting challenges of 100s of approaches..

"Final Stage - Persistence. You are to engage a legit 8/10 or above on your scale and stay hooked in with her until you get 1 of 3 things: she hits you, she screams for help or you F close, those are your only reasons that you can eject for. Rinse and repeat until you finally F close. This will massively open your eyes as to whats possible and help your confidence"

Now?

we are talking about getting a girl to show us her whole, actual entire face cos that's either a small or a big police fine and therefore a big compliance test win.
Ever Increasingly Incel world..

Do not adjust to .. covid normal or.. new normal.. or whatever.. take your non-adjustment as a medal of valour pinned on your chest. The fuckers want to make us thirsty simps. Fuck. That. Shit.


(Good luck out there men..) >:/

I seen the Soi Bar Girls earlier this year doing shows on livestream and dudes dropping some dough on the PG show. All the bar girls do the Wai and try to keep a straight face all the while thinking "wow I didn't even have to come f2f with the old drunk farang this time and I got that much more while keeping my clothes on and a dick out of my mouth" The same guys that make onlyfans possible.
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#13
If anything, the bigger question to ask is where the hell are these people getting $3K from? If it is from their savings, that is pathetic. If it from a credit card, even more pathetic.
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#14
(12-30-2020, 04:59 PM)Suits Wrote:
(12-30-2020, 09:08 AM)Harem Scarem Wrote: Or I could just enjoy having Chinese tea made for me, while giving her the sexual education that the Chinese school system neglected.

I'm guessing that's a sexual education that NO school system provides (officially speaking).

Obviously, the combination can lead to bad scalding and is not to be attempted lightly at that age.
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(12-31-2020, 08:32 AM)Manbeline Wrote: If anything, the bigger question to ask is where the hell are these people getting $3K from? If it is from their savings, that is pathetic. If it from a credit card, even more pathetic.

the big daddy gubberment stimulus checks is my guess.

simps be simpin'
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#16
The central banks around the world are to blame for this. Let me explain. Painfully long recessions(to clean out the system) are NOT allowed anymore. They print money and inject it into the banking system, credit markets and bailout shit companies that never plan for the future(PPP program). The US federal reserve, ECB and BOJ are the biggest culprits of this crony capitalism or socialism( i prefer to call it this). In turn, wages NEVER go down, layoffs are minimal and the higher positions are getting more money than ever before. The private sector is a safehaven so to speak in all of this printing and inflating and as such, the stock market bubbles up, up and away. The average idiot that has money in their retirement account is getting richer by the day. Tech and Tech jobs are in ultra demand more than ever and it's creating an easy life for millions employed in Tech.  As a result of "all of the above"Discretionary income is at an ALL TIME high as are savings. This creates the money that fuels ONLYFANS, cam whores, seeking arrangements, outright buying girls through trips, gifts etc.. Is creating simping on a global scale never seen or done before. Covid-19 only accelerated things that were taking time to happen. Global thirst is at extreme level due to lack of human interaction. Thus the issues at hand, left for men that have real value.

Case in point, I have a beta, blue pilled brother-in la that is in the Home construction business. I'm not ashamed to say he is a fucking idiot with a very lo IQ as most are. However, because the Federal reserve has left interest rates extremely low and keeps a lid on the ten-year yields(these determine mortgage rates) since the great recession, my brother- in law has made a shit load off his shit business and flaunts his wealth, like he is a pimp and genius. I'm looking at him and thinking he'd be working at Mcdonalds if it weren't for the Federal Reserve artificially keeping rates low. He spends money left and right without thinking and Simps on the side( he admitted).

I don't know the solution or whats next. I only know that it's only going to get worse. The Simping that is...sighhh 
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#17
(12-31-2020, 08:32 AM)Manbeline Wrote: If anything, the bigger question to ask is where the hell are these people getting $3K from? If it is from their savings, that is pathetic. If it from a credit card, even more pathetic.

Plenty of people, especially lonely dudes, who have money. Think of a middle-aged virgin still living with his mother and holding down a half-way decent desk job. He has basically no expenses, so he has a lot of excess money to spend.

I had a friend years ago who ran a webcam girl business and those were his best customers.
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#18
Yo!! This thread seems to have went off the tracks! All I wanna know is how a dude can get out of a slump and how to get back on the proper game/PUA trail after slumping it for a while. Appreciate the input tho. But if anyone could give moi some serious pragmatic advice on how to get back into it after a slump it would be much appreciated, much love <3.

Anyway. After 6-8 day wines w/my boys, found myself hitting on a Filipina on the train tonight before lockdown went into effect. Looked like a 7-8, but hard to tell w/mask. She wasn't really having it, but at least I was able to approach and have something of a convo going till she had to hop off. If she had gone to the end of train line, might have been able to get a #. Personally, would prefer the Indonesians with the ridicuc make up and the hijabs tho haha. If this one didn't hop off when she did in AM, wuda been on it!!

Anyway, 2 maybe 3 dates planned for tomorrow. Hoping they get me back one boat for Sunday. Gonna try to get some low hanging fruit Sunday. Seriously wanna get outa this day game slump!
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