The PR. China Thread
Looking "Muslim" is not going to be an advantage in China, obviously and how you see yourself doesn't mean much if the common Chinese reaction to your appearance is different.

However, you can't do much about that. Focus your energies on loosing that weight fast, improving your Chinese and adapting your game to China.
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You might want to try SEA or Japan. Also, most NE Asian chicks don't like beards or thick beards. They associate it with Islam and terrorism, literally. I'm white and had a very short trimmed beard, and I've been called a terrorist in China by girls before. lol I know other white guys who had similar problems. Chinese chicks are kind of narrow-minded.

Shenzhen also probably isn't the best city to be in. I honestly don't know why the place was so highly spoken of on RVF. You've got chinese guys in IT raking in 6 figs and apartment-flipping millionaires to compete with, not to mention expats in HK with real jobs who come up on weekends.

I was in Shanghai earlier this year and it was still good, at least for me. Had a 22 year old come over straight for fucking, and banged 3 other sluts. Maybe Xi Jinping scaring the shit out of foreigners and making most of them leave was a good thing. lol
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(06-18-2019, 10:07 PM)Vic Vega Wrote: You might want to try SEA or Japan. Also, most NE Asian chicks don't like beards or thick beards. They associate it with Islam and terrorism, literally. I'm white and had a very short trimmed beard, and I've been called a terrorist in China by girls before. lol I know other white guys who had similar problems. Chinese chicks are kind of narrow-minded.

Shenzhen also probably isn't the best city to be in. I honestly don't know why the place was so highly spoken of on RVF. You've got chinese guys in IT raking in 6 figs and apartment-flipping millionaires to compete with, not to mention expats in HK with real jobs who come up on weekends.

I was in Shanghai earlier this year and it was still good, at least for me. Had a 22 year old come over straight for fucking, and banged 3 other sluts. Maybe Xi Jinping scaring the shit out of foreigners and making most of them leave was a good thing. lol

I've actually wanted to go to Japan but there were multiple reasons why I chose China and my Japanese is nonexistent. I'm not sure if Japanese people and girls in particular are less xenophobic than here but I got the sense that might be the case from some of the posts about Japan on RVF. I also got the sense that it is not an easy place to game in and that flaking is very common. Still if I decide to eventually go there it will probably have to be another city outside of Tokyo due to the high living costs and competition from other foreigners. I also will have to get my Japanese speaking ability up to a conversational level first.

I have also decided to shave very regularly here in Shenzhen. While I have been getting more looks compared to when I first got here, I'm starting to think a good portion are not IOIs. Some definitely are I think, but some are just stares that I would say are not positive or negative but just stares, but then again I might not be the best at reading eye contact. Anyways considering that and the advice you guys are giving me, I'll see if it improves my results with girls I approach that give me eye contact. I do see a lot of wealthy guys here but I am staying around Luohu and Futian so my observations are mostly from these areas. I am definitely going to make an effort to go to other areas in the city that hopefully have less foreigners.

As for Shanghai I cant really say if I would do good there or not as I didn't game there much and got into a short term relationship with a girl I lost my virginity to. This was the only girl I banged there, it was towards the end of my time there and she was maybe a 6 on a good day imo.
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Since it's been about 2 weeks, I thought I would give an update. I have lost a significant amount of weight in Shenzhen by walking 15000 to 20000 steps daily and eating only one to two meals a day. I have approached around 100 girls in total and so far I have gotten 5 girls out on dates. 3 were insta dates that I met in malls and 2 others happened a week after I initially met them. Unfortunately, all but one so far ended up going dead after the first date as each girl either went silent after I suggested meeting up a second time or said they were busy and then went silent after I hit them up again a few days later. One of the insta dates went pretty well too at least from my perspective, as this girl bought me coffee and even considered buying shoes that I suggested she would look good in. 


I went on a date with one this Thursday night. However, already I am getting radio silence after suggesting to meet up again even though she responded to my after date text. I may have tried a bit too hard to convince her to come to my place for the second date as well... 


I think what might also be an issue is that I am spending too much time with girls on date 1 without escalating enough. I am spending an hour to an hour and a half with them and changing venues without escalating and am not going for the kiss at the end of the dates. In hindsight I think this was a bad idea as this recent girl was open to spending the entire evening together and suggested that we go to the upstairs of a Starbucks which I agreed to. The place was pretty empty and had low lighting as some Starbucks have for atmosphere.


Stupid me said I had to leave in half an hour back at the the first venue as we left, as I wanted to end the date a bit after the first venue. I think in retrospect I should have stayed and at least went for the kiss. I guess I am operating under the idea of not doing too much kino with Chinese girls on date 1, but if the dates are dragging out, I think I should be escalating more. I think not ending the dates earlier or not going as far as I can escalation wise, is a major contributor to girls flaking after the first date.


I am also starting to wonder if my text game isn't the best in some cases. I am mostly sticking to the pure logistics text game that Roosh describes in Game but maybe that isn't a good idea as some of the interactions from approaching only last 3 to 4 minutes as some girls are in a hurry. Perhaps I need to build more comfort before going for the meet up in these situations. 


One thing I also noticed is that girls seem to have short attention spans here, much less than what I remember from girls in Shanghai last year.
As some other posters have said girls really do have a lot of options here from what I have observed. I think this combined with my beginner game, me still being slightly overweight, the fact that I don't speak a lot of Chinese, and girls being career obsessed doesn't make for the most optimal environment for me to do well in.


I probably should have gone to a 2nd tier city, preferably Chengdu or Chongqing as Sichuan cuisine is my favorite Chinese sub-cuisine and I really like the physical look of girls from that area. Perhaps if I go to China again I will go to Chongqing or Sichuan. 
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I am in Shenzhen often and have been for 11 years now. Shenzhen is full of foreigners. What used to be easy and quick is now mostly tiresome and tedious. Any first tier city is. Truly in China, you need to be able to speak Chinese. 2nd Tier cities you need to speak Chinese even more. You are no longer a novelty or really, even desired unless you are very wealthy.
However, a night out in Coco, start at 12 leave much later, should net you some results. Sicilia is most crowded, Viva is Meh to me but I always have fun in O Garden. But still, too many laowis. Seaworld I never enjoyed. Soho is another decent spot.
After 11 years and a ton of fun in China, I no longer care much. Philippines is very close, a lot cheaper and far, far easier.
This from an old white fat guy hahahahaha
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Kino on first date, at least with someone internationalized girls who speak some English and especially with those who have dated foreign men before is no problem. SNL is not unusual at all with these types of girls. The only thing is that kino needs to remain light and innocent UNTIL she is back at your place. That's when you start ramping it up to putting your arm around her, rubbing her back (while she pretends not to notice), going for the kiss on each cheek and finally the lips.

I think if you're getting dates and they are going cold, your problem is a game problem. This is nothing to feel bad about, a lot of guys struggle to figure dating out in China at first, but the ball is very much in your court to fix it.

I can't speak to specifically on this subject, because I'm a China specialist who speaks Chinese and has game that has been carefully crafted specifically for China, but you're going to continue to struggle until you make some changes.

What are you dressed like on dates? Can you make the girls giggle? Do you know how to create a fun, playful, silly, pointless conversation while on a date? Are you dressed in a way that is put together? Do you have a plan in place for when you get a girl who agrees to a date on a Tuesday night? Do you have the ability to convey that you are inviting her into your world; if she wasn't joining you, you'd be doing the same thing anyway?

Are you running at two venue first date routine? Is the first venue a carefully chosen location with energy, but a comfortable volume that allows for a "get to know you" classic first date conversation? Have you locked down that first venue so that the manager comes up and shakes your hand when you arrive and promises to get you a table as fast as humanly possible?

Is the second venue a carefully selected location where it only makes sense to sit at the bar where you're side-by-side and kino only comes naturally? Is it a classy cocktail lounge which naturally creates conversation and allows you to briefly demonstrate value by sharing a few pertinent facts that help her choose her beverage? Are you pre-seeding the second date?

Is your apartment a mere 15 minute walk from your two locked down venues? Do you have the ability to casually state that if she joins at your apartment just around the corner for a film, you can help her find a taxi after the movie is finished? Do you have a hard-drive at home with a couple of excellent late night films ready to go with Chinese subtitles downloaded, tested and guaranteed to work perfectly without 10 minutes of fucking with menus on your computer to get them to turn on?

Does your apartment have a vibe that speaks to your success in life makes her want to come back for another visit some time? Do you speak Chinese with enough skill to be humorous and make her giggle?

My answer to all of these questions is "yes" and that has been a key component of my success with women in China.

Of course, if you really want to kick it up another notch, we need to discuss party-host game, but you're not ready for that until you master some game basics and build a dependable crew.
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How stacked are these Chinese girls? I spent less than 24 hours in China just passing through so my opinion sucks. I spent a couple months in Japan and Japanese girls have pretty decent tits surprisingly so I'd be happy if they were similar to Japs at least.

As far as surgeries go it seems like Asian girls aren't that big on implants.
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(07-05-2019, 06:10 PM)11Up Wrote: I probably should have gone to a 2nd tier city, preferably Chengdu or Chongqing as Sichuan cuisine is my favorite Chinese sub-cuisine and I really like the physical look of girls from that area. Perhaps if I go to China again I will go to Chongqing or Sichuan. 

Chengdu is officially a first tier city, albeit one with lower English levels than Shanghai of Shenzhen. Just going to Chengdu and not changing anything is not going to make it any easier for you to bang chicks than staying in Shenzhen or Shanghai. You're going to have to work on yourself and your approach, like Suits said. Any chick over a 5 is going to want to know if you're making decent money and not a total loser. You need to demonstrate that. Unless you're just pulling sluts out of the club for ONS, there's no way to escape the career obsession. It's part of the culture. 
With that said, Chengdu is much cheaper. An apartment that runs RMB 10,000-12,000 per month in Shanghai or SZX is going to be RMB 3,000 to 4,000 in Chengdu. Gym membership is laughably cheap too. 
Chongqing has far fewer foreigners, but, from an "infrastructure" standpoint, is much less foreigner friendly than Chengdu. You'd stand out more in Chongqing than Chengdu because the former gets fewer international tourists. Chengdu has more to offer travelers with the panda reserves, Giant Buddha, Emeishan, and huge mountains to the west.  Chongqing is a hilly region on the river.

(07-06-2019, 02:41 AM)SC87 Wrote: How stacked are these Chinese girls? I spent less than 24 hours in China just passing through so my opinion sucks. I spent a couple months in Japan and Japanese girls have pretty decent tits surprisingly so I'd be happy if they were similar to Japs at least. 

As far as surgeries go it seems like Asian girls aren't that big on implants.
My opinion is that Korean and Japanese girls are prettier and have better bodies on average. There are millions of hot girls in China, but the average chick has a skinny fat body due to the high oil and carb, low animal protein diet.  Compare that to Korean chicks (Korean barbecue and fermented vegetables) and Japanese chicks (fish, fresh vegetables, small portions) and the average Chinese body ranks lower. While the chick might look perfectly fit and thin when she's got her clothes on, once you get her naked you realize she doesn't have hardly any musculature.  You'll be hitting it missionary, go to grab the behind of her thigh, and your fingers will sink all the way down to the bone. Again, this is the average. You can find very fit gym obsessed girls who are tight as can be. You can also find chicks with big cannons, but they know they have big cannons and they are going to expect you to bring something to the table ($$$, fun, or obvious status so she can post pictures to her Wechat moments).
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5 dates out of 100 approaches. Christ.
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(07-06-2019, 12:22 AM)Suits Wrote: Kino on first date, at least with someone internationalized girls who speak some English and especially with those who have dated foreign men before is no problem. SNL is not unusual at all with these types of girls. The only thing is that kino needs to remain light and innocent UNTIL she is back at your place. That's when you start ramping it up to putting your arm around her, rubbing her back (while she pretends not to notice), going for the kiss on each cheek and finally the lips.

I think if you're getting dates and they are going cold, your problem is a game problem. This is nothing to feel bad about, a lot of guys struggle to figure dating out in China at first, but the ball is very much in your court to fix it.

I can't speak to specifically on this subject, because I'm a China specialist who speaks Chinese and has game that has been carefully crafted specifically for China, but you're going to continue to struggle until you make some changes.

Yeah I agree, I think if I can loose more weight that will also help. I am starting to run out if time here though. At the very least, I think approaching that many girls has been a big confidence booster for me as I am mostly approaching girls in the 6 to 8 range imo. Hopefully I can get a few more dates and do things differently to see if it improves my results. 

(07-06-2019, 12:22 AM)Suits Wrote: What are you dressed like on dates? Can you make the girls giggle? Do you know how to create a fun, playful, silly, pointless conversation while on a date? Are you dressed in a way that is put together? Do you have a plan in place for when you get a girl who agrees to a date on a Tuesday night? Do you have the ability to convey that you are inviting her into your world; if she wasn't joining you, you'd be doing the same thing anyway?


I am dressing well, I usually wear buttoned dress shirts with patterns on them and above average jeans and never wear shorts/dress like a stereotypical backpacker type. I also tell girls I live in a nicer part of Luohu which for those who don't know is an area where a lot of wealthy people live.

This isnt a lie so it's not like I appear to be a loser or I guess the stereotypical English teacher, I do usually tell girls that I work from home/work in I.T. (I don't actually work in China but I don't tell them this). I definitely think my game needs some work, but I usually just ask for directions and then try to transition the convo from elderly into displaying some value and trying to get a girls wechat, my level of Chinese kind of prevents me from rambling too much though as it's still not that good. If a girl speaks English it tends to flow better but I think some of those girls are more demanding in what they want as they are usually more educated/more wealthy. I am still being waved away or ignored by some girls I approach though.

I am able to talk a bit about some things in Chinese for a little bit and I am able to make girls giggle sometimes. On the last date I had I managed to make the girl giggle and laugh quite a lot as we were at a restaurant for the first venue and I made jokes about combining certain foods together that clearly wouldn't taste good that she should try, albeit it was in broken Chinese and I did use Bing translate a bit which she also used quite a lot but she was still smiling a lot and was giving me strong eye contact for a bit.

I actually thought I had that one in the bag for a second date but I guess some of the things I did that I wrote in my previous post scared her off as I never got a response from her. I may try hitting her up in a another day or two with a restart text but oh well.

I guess I should try framing going to venues as wanting to try certain places to see if I would want to go back with friends and that girls are welcome to try them with me but otherwise I don't mind trying them by myself. I already do this with my openers as I am asking for girls opinions on certain places that I ask for directions to and then compare them with places from back home to drop bait.

(07-06-2019, 12:22 AM)Suits Wrote: Are you running at two venue first date routine? Is the first venue a carefully chosen location with energy, but a comfortable volume that allows for a "get to know you" classic first date conversation? Have you locked down that first venue so that the manager comes up and shakes your hand when you arrive and promises to get you a table as fast as humanly possible?

Is the second venue a carefully selected location where it only makes sense to sit at the bar where you're side-by-side and kino only comes naturally? Is it a classy cocktail lounge which naturally creates conversation and allows you to briefly demonstrate value by sharing a few pertinent facts that help her choose her beverage? Are you pre-seeding the second date?

Is your apartment a mere 15 minute walk from your two locked down venues? Do you have the ability to casually state that if she joins at your apartment just around the corner for a film, you can help her find a taxi after the movie is finished? Do you have a hard-drive at home with a couple of excellent late night films ready to go with Chinese subtitles downloaded, tested and guaranteed to work perfectly without 10 minutes of fucking with menus on your computer to get them to turn on?


As for venues being locked down, I am staying near a mall so I can try using Starbucks or another tea/coffee place for the first venue, but unfortunately there aren't really any good bars in short walking distance from my place so i don't really have an ideal 2nd venue that's more intimate nearby. I guess I should pick a not too expensive restaurant with a nice low lit atmosphere and start tipping the staff there.

I am going to download some Chinese movies and I was already thinking of using this excuse to get a girl to go to my place. I don't think I am competent enough in my Chinese to say something like that and say I can get her a taxi casually though.

(07-06-2019, 12:22 AM)Suits Wrote: Does your apartment have a vibe that speaks to your success in life makes her want to come back for another visit some time? Do you speak Chinese with enough skill to be humorous and make her giggle?

My answer to all of these questions is "yes" and that has been a key component of my success with women in China.

Of course, if you really want to kick it up another notch, we need to discuss party-host game, but you're not ready for that until you master some game basics and build a dependable crew.

My apartment is a pretty good place imo as there is an accessible pool on the building site and I have mentioned this to the last date I went on but she said she was afraid of swimming when I pushed it as an excuse for fir her to come to my place. She did ask for a picture of the apartment though, I was going to send her one eventually as I didn't want to give too much more about me away before another date, but maybe I overthought that one since my goal was to originally get her to my place for the 2nd date, instead I texted her something else and she went cold a bit after that. Regardless too late now. I think a major issue is the fact that I just can't ramble enough in Chinese and that is costing me big time.

I don't think I'm ready for party host game, plus the place I am staying in is an airbnb so I would probably get kicked out for trying to organize something like that.



(07-06-2019, 04:54 AM)jdreise Wrote:
(07-05-2019, 06:10 PM)11Up Wrote: I probably should have gone to a 2nd tier city, preferably Chengdu or Chongqing as Sichuan cuisine is my favorite Chinese sub-cuisine and I really like the physical look of girls from that area. Perhaps if I go to China again I will go to Chongqing or Sichuan. 

Chengdu is officially a first tier city, albeit one with lower English levels than Shanghai of Shenzhen. Just going to Chengdu and not changing anything is not going to make it any easier for you to bang chicks than staying in Shenzhen or Shanghai. You're going to have to work on yourself and your approach, like Suits said. Any chick over a 5 is going to want to know if you're making decent money and not a total loser. You need to demonstrate that. Unless you're just pulling sluts out of the club for ONS, there's no way to escape the career obsession. It's part of the culture. 
With that said, Chengdu is much cheaper. An apartment that runs RMB 10,000-12,000 per month in Shanghai or SZX is going to be RMB 3,000 to 4,000 in Chengdu. Gym membership is laughably cheap too. 
Chongqing has far fewer foreigners, but, from an "infrastructure" standpoint, is much less foreigner friendly than Chengdu. You'd stand out more in Chongqing than Chengdu because the former gets fewer international tourists. Chengdu has more to offer travelers with the panda reserves, Giant Buddha, Emeishan, and huge mountains to the west.  Chongqing is a hilly region on the river.

(07-06-2019, 02:41 AM)SC87 Wrote: How stacked are these Chinese girls? I spent less than 24 hours in China just passing through so my opinion sucks. I spent a couple months in Japan and Japanese girls have pretty decent tits surprisingly so I'd be happy if they were similar to Japs at least. 

As far as surgeries go it seems like Asian girls aren't that big on implants.
My opinion is that Korean and Japanese girls are prettier and have better bodies on average. There are millions of hot girls in China, but the average chick has a skinny fat body due to the high oil and carb, low animal protein diet.  Compare that to Korean chicks (Korean barbecue and fermented vegetables) and Japanese chicks (fish, fresh vegetables, small portions) and the average Chinese body ranks lower. While the chick might look perfectly fit and thin when she's got her clothes on, once you get her naked you realize she doesn't have hardly any musculature.  You'll be hitting it missionary, go to grab the behind of her thigh, and your fingers will sink all the way down to the bone. Again, this is the average. You can find very fit gym obsessed girls who are tight as can be. You can also find chicks with big cannons, but they know they have big cannons and they are going to expect you to bring something to the table ($$$, fun, or obvious status so she can post pictures to her Wechat moments).

I personally don't mind less developed places too much. I have been to 2nd and 3rd tier cities in Turkey which are pretty much shit holes by western standards so I have an idea of what to expect if Chongqing is like that. I do know it is still a pretty big city, I think the metro area has around 8 million people according to Wikipedia right? Of course, if I go to China again hopefully I will fully be in shape by then and have better game, I imagine the lower amount of foreigners will help me stand out as you are saying.

I did hear that Chengdu had a lot of foreigners but I wasn't under the impression it is like Shanghai or here.

(07-06-2019, 05:49 AM)Dash Wrote: 5 dates out of 100 approaches. Christ.

I actually am from NYC and I don't think I would struggle this much if I really tried there when I get back. I get more IOIs there than here. I know it is touted as an eacy place to get laid, but for several reasons I did not lose my virginity nor have I gotten laid there. One of the main reasons is my logistics suck there as I live with family although I may now be able to use my dad's place which is in lower Manhattan from time to time for a while. Also, back in high school and in my first two years of college I was depressed, a bit of a loner, had negative game and was very overweight. I am only 22 years old though.

I also prefer Asian girls to the point where I don't want to date non Asian girls there as I see most of them as too masculine compared to places like here and eastern Europe of which I have been to several countries there(although obviously some asian girls are like this as well). I don't live near the Chinatowns either not counting my dad's place. Although of course, NYC is better than the rest of the US. Thing is I'm not big on ONS and prefer relationships, something NYC can be a bit hard to find in outside of social circles in my opinion. I guess I'm going to have to hit Flushing hard when I get back which is very far away from where I live.

Again, I think another big factor as to why my results are so low here is the language barrier as my Chinese is only at a semi conversational level and I am still a bit overweight. Girls also do have a lot of options here.
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(07-06-2019, 12:22 AM)Suits Wrote:  party-host game

really curious about this. what do you mean by that to begin with?
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(07-08-2019, 05:15 AM)randomA Wrote:
(07-06-2019, 12:22 AM)Suits Wrote:  party-host game

really curious about this. what do you mean by that to begin with?

I have a datasheet on the topic up on RVF.

As a basic summary, it's an approach that involves hosting classy house parties with a handful of trusted male friends (2-4) that you can invite a variety of women (and their girlfriends) to. It allows you to meet multiple girls from online dating sites without wasting a night (and the cost of the dinner tab) on each one individually, while also getting a shot at meeting and seducing their often better looking friends.

RVF member Space Cowboy and I got the system tuned to a point where our house-parties usually ended in us both getting laid immediately after the bulk of the guests left, leaving behind our chosen bang targets.

It made for some interesting group breakfasts in the morning.
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(07-06-2019, 12:22 AM)Suits Wrote: Do you have a hard-drive at home with a couple of excellent late night films ready to go with Chinese subtitles downloaded, tested and guaranteed to work perfectly without 10 minutes of fucking with menus on your computer to get them to turn on?

What movies do you play for these Chinese chicks? Texas Chainsaw Massacre? I heard they like movies with Matt Damon and dinosaurs.
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I ended up getting 3 dates with this older chick that has decent sized tits for a Chinese girl, although her face isn't the best. However, I did not get the bang. The first included me taking her back to my apartment, but the going back to watch a movie excuse may have worked on this one for the first date since shes from Shanghai. Although, her English ability is atrocious. The second one began with me cooking pasta at my place. I tried to get the bang on the 2nd date but she put up resistance to me trying to get her clothes off multiple times, although she was fine with me touching everywhere including breasts and crotch with clothes on. She also kind of resisted to me kissing her but gave me the eyes that she was down for it.

3rd one I invited her to swim in the pool at my building and had her come up for wine and watched a movie after but she still kept giving me LMR whenever I tried to kiss her or get her clothes off just like on the 2nd date but again was fine with me touching everywhere with her clothes on and initiated touching a lot herself. I told her she could come over tomorrow to swim again which she agreed to but, I may cut it off with this one. I think I am being taken for a ride or maybe she is playing hard to get since she is a leftover woman and only wants guys that really commit. Unfortunately, I don't have any other tangible options as of now. 

Also ended up getting diarrhea and a low grade fever with painful stomach cramps that prevented me from day gaming for a few days last week. Finally my stomach was better this weekend and I approached 15 girls on Saturday and Sunday each to make up for it but only got 3 wechats out of it, even with some of these girls giving me IOIs as I approached them. Although, I probably could of tried pushing harder for a number close with a few of them. Not much luck today either, although one girl asked for my wechat first but then later told me over text that she is leaving in a few days to go back to her home city. Another one from the weekend said she may be able to meet up around the time I leave, oh well.

I've accepted the increasingly likely possibility that I will not get the bang here since I have a week and a half left. I'm still not going to give up but this place has been an uphill battle for me. I may try night game but in my limited experience I've never really liked nightclubs and I have never done well in that setting with girls as I am more of an introvert and alcohol tends to amplify that aspect of my personality.

I think I may go to Vietnam next, I've been reading the thread on that place. Although, Vietnamese looks difficult to master due to it having 6 tones and most of the tones don't sound anything like the Chinese tones. I'm not sure I will learn at a fast enough pace in half a year to a year's time to be conversational. Despite this, I'm sure it being written in a Latin alphabet will help.

On the other hand, I am also more familiar with China at this point and have some knowledge of the Chinese language. I am tempted to give it a third try since I will probably be fully in shape as I am only 10 pounds overweight now and I plan to go to the gym twice a week when I go back to NYC to stay in shape. I'm also not a fan of the Vietnamese accent on girls. As of now I'm torn between trying Chongqing or Hanoi next year.
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(07-09-2019, 01:51 AM)glugger Wrote:
(07-06-2019, 12:22 AM)Suits Wrote: Do you have a hard-drive at home with a couple of excellent late night films ready to go with Chinese subtitles downloaded, tested and guaranteed to work perfectly without 10 minutes of fucking with menus on your computer to get them to turn on?

What movies do you play for these Chinese chicks? Texas Chainsaw Massacre? I heard they like movies with Matt Damon and dinosaurs.

Best to have a collect so you have something for every different type of girl. If it's too cute, she's gonna wanna watch it instead of making out. Just don't overthink it. As long as you stay away from horror films, you should be fine.
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So to be clear, what's the housing option where you won't get cockblocked by the front desk / landlord?

If hotels and any other type of situation where there's a front desk person blocks your girl, what types of places can avoid this? Something like Air bnb there?

And is there anything similar to tinder there to pipeline tail?
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You can use Airbnb in China. I did it for a years straight once just to explore different neighbourhoods in Beijing.

The challenge is that if you live anywhere other than a hotel, you're legally required to report to the local police station within 24 hours and register your address.

This can be tricky if you don't have a signed leasing document, as some police stations will demand the property owner's ID information and won't let you register without it. This has created some tricky situations for me.

Most of the Airbnb hosts in China won't understand Chinese, so it could create some serious inconvenience for you.
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I'm looking for the 2nd or 3rd tier city where I'll have the biggest white god factor. I just want to pull sluts from clubs. So banging nightlife but few other whites is my criteria.

Wuhan? Ghuanzhou? Harbin? 

I will pick one then plan out the lodging near clubs.
I dont want places like shanghai or wherever else theyre used to seeing white guys.
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(08-15-2019, 12:58 AM)Disco_Volante Wrote: I'm looking for the 2nd or 3rd tier city where I'll have the biggest white god factor. I just want to pull sluts from clubs. So banging nightlife but few other whites is my criteria.

Wuhan? Ghuanzhou? Harbin? 

I will pick one then plan out the lodging near clubs.
I dont want places like shanghai or wherever else theyre used to seeing white guys.

Honestly, the "clubs" are going to be the worst place to pick-up girls in most places outside of Beijing/Shanghai/Guangzhou/Shenzhen. If a city has few enough foreigners for you to have instant white god status, the clubs there WILL NOT be a pick-up venue.

You'd probably have better luck on a university campus or even at a McDonalds during daylight hours.
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Fricken hell, just finished up an online process for authenticating my university degree, which is a requirement for my Chinese work visa.

I feel elated that the submission seemed to go through, because the process was pretty intimidating before I started it.

Can't wait to get this visa application over with (fingers crossed that I actually do get a visa) and get back to earn money in Beijing.

Dealing with visas for China is always frustrating, scary and uncomfortable.
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