Thailand or the Philippines?

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Should You Go To Thailand or the Philippines?

For the male traveler interested in swooping Asian girls, the two top destinations are without a doubt Thailand and the Philippines. But which one is the best? In this post I will compare both and discuss the pros and cons of each of these oriental paradises.

I lived for months in both cities and each have their charm. It’s really hard to say one is better than the other one, it will come down to personal preference. I recommend to visit both, but if you have to pick one, I hope this post will inform you to make the right choice.

Thailand

The land of the smiles. Thailand really embraced tourism and it’s easy to travel and easy on the budget. It’s definitely the most “Asian” of the two. Thailand has a strong national identity and culture, which makes it unique and exotic to live. But the cultural differences could be a double edged sword as well.

Pros

Never bored / Crazy-factor

There truly isn’t another city as crazy as Bangkok. Think about the movie “Hangover 2”. You can get into all kinds of crazy adventure every single day of the week, every single moment of the day.

There’s always something going on. Parties, bars, malls, dates… It’s really hard to get bored in Bangkok. If you get bored in Bangkok, it’s probably you.

Cheap

You can get a lot of value for you dollars in Thailand. This is also why it’s so popular for backpackers. You can find cheap hotels and cheap food. The biggest part of your budget will probably be booze. Bangkok is the most expensive Thai city to live in Thailand and even there it’s cheap compared to other big Asian cities.

Great food

Thailand is world famous for it’s excellent cuisine. The food is delicious and cheap and even the street food tastes amazing. The only downside it’s low protein and high carb, but this is the case for all Asian food.

Cons

Grey zone pros nightlife

There are a LOT of grey zone prostitutes in Thailand. A lot of Thai girls see foreigners as walking ATM’s. Luckily this is mostly concentrated in the nightlife and depends on where you go out (e.g. Sukhumvit, Nana, Asok). Good girls can be found online (Tinder & Thaifriendly.com) and with day game; but note that day game is a lot more challenging than in the Philippines.

(p.s. Cebu in the Phils has the same issue)

Barriers (culture / language)

What makes Thailand unique is also what can make it off-putting. The cultural differences should not be underestimated. A lot of Thai people are pretty close minded, believing Thailand is the centre of the universe; e.g. every white person is a “farang” (foreigner) from “foreigner-land”.

Also there’s a language barrier. The level of english is generally not great, so you’ll run into some communication problems. Don’t expect to pick up the language. It’s a tonal language with a complicated writing system so you would need to put in a LOT of effort to even get the basics down.

Hard to get the hiso girls

The regular girls are really easy in Thailand but it’s a lot harder to break into the top tier: the HISO girls (high society). Because there so much sex tourism, the hiso girls are reluctant to date foreigners; they fear being associated with the gringo hunting girls who date tourists. This makes it more challenging for you as a traveler to get into that crowd without some social proof  (like Thai friends).

This is much less of an issue in countries like the Philippines (or even less so in Indonesia).

Philippines

The official slogan of the country is “It’s more fun in the Philippines”. It’s an amazing country with beautiful nature and an abundance of fun, cute girls. There are plenty of travel activities to do, volcanos, rice fields, exotic beaches, etc.

Some people think the Philippines is a dangerous country to visit. This is totally not the case. There are some troubles with muslims, but this is only in one particular area in the south and can be easily avoided.

Pros

Girls speak English

Compared to Thailand the level of english spoken in the Philippines is excellent. There’s no need to learn Tagalog as most people speak perfect english; with an adorable accent. You’ll notice they’ll switch back and forth between Tagalog and english when talking amongst friends. There’s practically no language barrier.

More worldly 

Pinoys are much more worldly and open-minded than Thai people. Manila will feel less like an Asian city. They are very pro Western / American culture. For example, you’ll hear english soft-pop/rock songs everywhere you go.

Because they are more open minded,, if you do learn some phrases or words in Tagalog, it will be greatly appreciated. Unlike Thailand, where it’s an actual expression “Pood mak roo mak” (if you speak the language, you’ll know too much).

Exotic value (especially in the smaller cities)

The Philippines is one of the countries where you get the most exotic value being a foreigner. It’s only beaten by Indonesia in this regard. As a foreigner you enjoy instant higher status, especially in the 2nd tier cities. This makes it great for day game. I did an day game experiment with 20Nation in a second tier city where we would just walk up to girls, talk for 1 minute and give our number. We would get up to 90% response rates! Hard to beat that.

Cons

Less to do in Manila

Manila is not as crazy and entertaining as Bangkok. There isn’t that much to do or visit really. My first impression on Manilla was horrible btw. I stayed in the wrong part of town and I thought it was an absolute shit hole.

There are huge differences between different areas of the city. You need to  do some research before you go and get to know how to approach the city to appreciate it. Limit yourself to the high end areas Makati and Fort Bonifacio.

There’s nightlife but the scene is smaller and it more focussed on the weekends. It’s possible to party on Tuesday / Wednesday but you’ll have less options. Manila is a 10 million people city but there’s a big gap between poor and rich so the nightlife scene feels closer to 1-2 million city city.

A lot of AVERAGE girls

There are really stunning Pinays. They often win the Miss Universe for a reason. But the top of the pyramid is small in the Philippines. There’s just an overload of sixes and sevens. They are extremely easy to seduce. When you want the better quality, you will have to go to the high end clubs and malls.

But while the percentage of hot girls is small, they are more accessible than their Thai counterparts.

More expensive (less touristy)

Life in Manila is more expensive than Bangkok. It’s less touristy so there are less options for the budget traveler. While prices for apartments really drop for longer stays (1-3 months), this makes it more pricey for shorter trips.

The food is bad

Pinoys are not known for their foods and with reason. The food is crappy. It’s really difficult to find some tasty food in the Phils. There are good Western restaurants but they come at a price. If you want cheap and good food,  the best option you have is to go to a chicken place and buy a whole roasted chicken or to cook yourself.

Conclusion

Go to Thailand

  • If you like night game
  • If you want non-stop craziness
  • If you are looking for a different cultural experience, a more “Asian” feeling
  • If you don’t mind language/culture barriers

Go to the Philippines

  • If you can spend more time
  • If you like day game
  • If you don’t mind traveling around within the country (there’s not a lot to do in Manila)
  • If you did the research on how to approach the city Manila (seriously, you might hate it if you don’t)
  • If you want to slay it using online game!

Did you already go to one of these places or both? What was your experience? Which one was your favourite?

Peace,
THC

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I’m TravelHardcore, but people simply call me THC, although I don’t smoke. I speak several languages and suffer from insomnia. I left a well paying job, stuck in a miserable office to go out and see the world. I simply live for adventure. Cheers.

  • max

    hi THC
    which one is safer?
    I think the best strategy may be going to Phil first to build up game and earn some self-confidence then going to Thailand and totally kill it
    I’ll do that next year
    cheers

    • Both are safe countries. Just stay out of trouble with the law (both have VERY severe laws on drugs) and don’t get in a fight in Thailand. Once the smiles disappear it goes south real fast.

    • The Phils is currently more dangerous than Thailand. I’ve been around SEA the past 6 months, and there’s been some weird shit going down in the Phils. Although, Manila is always cool. I had the most ridiculous run of my life there of 20 new girls in 9 days with one 24 hour stretch of 5 new girls. It was a surreal experience.

    • It becomes more of a logistical challenge at that point. Damn, 20 in 9 days; you went all in there.

    • SourStarfish

      I need help. Im pipelining for my trip in January to Manila thro FC and already have over 200 skype conversations going. Its getting overwhelming to maintain. How can I manage that? Can I ignore Skype contact for a week or more? Will I lose many?

    • Aim for at least 500 or you won’t get laid bro

    • SourStarfish

      Can I ignore girls messages for a few weeks? Will I lose them?

    • MICHAEL

      Phiippines is a garbage hole…better to go to thailand…

  • Cecil J

    THC who are your personal Thailand and Phillipines for Europe?

    • I’m European

    • Cecil J

      Being a native to the Continent-
      What two Euro nations would you live in full time for game?

    • None in Western Europe. Maybe Eastern Europe but I haven’t explored it enough yet. I just like SEA and LATAM too much.

  • ben

    Hi THC and 20, I’m curious about how you decide to use condoms or not. Does it have to do with the city/region/country you’re in (in Asia, LatAm, or Europe), the girl’s race, her age range, her socio economic background, how you met her (website, club, daygame)?

    • Depends how easy / slutty she is; you can just tell. Also you’ve got to do the smell test.

    • Be careful in both places rawdogging. Both countries have the most STDs compared to other countries in SEA.

  • Cobbett

    Joined FillipinoCupid 10 days ago..I’ve had over a 1000 replies…bloody tiring. I won’t be there till January but I’ll be in Thailand for December, so thought I’d get things sorted before I leave England.The girls certainly want to meet Westerners, that’s for sure.

    • It’s crazy in the Phils. But it’s way to early to start pipelining, it will be 95% wasted time. Start 1-2max weeks ahead of time.

    • Cobbett

      Like I said..i’ll be in Thailand for a month…besides I got 20 odd phone numbers already…they won’t be meeting anyone else..especially as most of the men are rude perverts.

    • Don’t underestimate how sneaky these girls are. The conversion rate of these numbers drops considerably with time.

    • Cobbett

      Best I let you know what happens eh…in fact i’m already pissed off with getting called every day..from 2am onwards and during work..so might not be able to be bothered by the time I get there…

    • Cecil J

      Get a prepaid cell and keep it turned off with the voicemail on that way the 75iq Pinays can call and leave messages and you can just check that phone out 2-3xs/week max. Tell them you were tired from work, traveling for business, out on a sea fishing trip with no cell coverage etc if they ask why didn’t you call for 1-3 days.

    • Thai girls are the most Westernized of the Asian flock. In Thailand, it’s better not to get the girl’s number until you know she’s ready to meet or you’ll end up wasting a lot of time. Getting a girl’s number is nearly meaningless, getting her horny before she meets you isn’t.

  • West

    Guys you should visit Africa…

    • Yeah man, we’ve been planning it for years, it keeps getting postponed. I really want to go there.

    • I’m thinking of going to Africa on my way back East. You have any recommendations on which countries/cities to visit there? My Somalian friend told me Ethiopia is on point.

    • West

      One thing I will tell you is this… You should visit West Africa especially Nigeria and Ghana… Lagos will woo you.. The energy is different and the girls.. You will have different choice of educated and high class girls.. I’m not talking about pros but normal girls and if you wanna enjoy Lagos stay on the island, Hotel is between $40-$150 a night. As for Ghana you will feel at home as well.

    • Thanks West! The Nigerian girls I saw in the Philippines were definitely looking good. I need to look more into it in the coming weeks because I may head to Africa in the next couple months before returning to South America. Any better way to contact you directly?

    • West

      I will like to share my Whatsapp number but it’s public here so if you can message me privately I will

    • Hey West, I don’t know how to privately message on here, but if you get a minute email me at 199flags@gmail.com. I was looking into Nigeria, the visa is a pain in the butt, but you were right about the girls. They do seem money hunger though.

    • Andy

      i heard Lagos is rough. have to travel in a group and only by car.

    • West

      You’re safe but it’s better to be in company of people you know which is the way it is with almost every big city.

    • Andy

      new york? women can travel alone safely. lagos…youre getting dismembered for ritual offerings

  • Thailand if you have game, Philippines if you don’t 🙂 If you like buying it, Thailand all the way.

  • Scotian

    Hey West can u get in touch with me about west Africa? I’m Scotian,THC and 20nation can vouche for me

  • Andy

    philippines.. the nicest people, the worst food.

    • Completely agreed. I’m just buying 2 whole chickens at one of the roasted chicken places like Andok’s. It’s simple but the only way to get decent protein.