4 Steps to Get 60+ Dates a Month w/ Ukrainian Girls

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4 Steps to Get 60+ Dates a Month with Ukrainian Girls

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While I was in Ukraine I was pretty easily able to go on 2 to 3 dates a day with Ukrainian girls. Of these dates I would end up converting a high percentage into sex. How was I able to do this? Simple. I followed 4 easy steps. These steps took a lot of experience traveling the world, seducing women and some time living in Ukraine to figure out. Now I will share with you these steps on how I was able to do so well with beautiful Ukrainian girls.

 

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Step 1: Finding the girls

While in Ukraine I found out that it is one of the best countries that I have been to for online dating. I would put it at the #1 country in Europe and top 4 in the world. The girls online in Ukraine were absolutely stunning. I looked through the pages and saw model after model on each page. When I realized this, I knew that the secret was to use the right online dating websites.

Choosing the right dating websites

As an online dating specialist, I tried out quite a few different websites. What I found, was that 3 websites worked the best. I would recommend using all these websites to get a good balance of all the types.

#1 Recommended site: The main recommended site is this website.

This cupid site is my #1 recommended site because it is the website where I had the highest percentage of my sent messages turn into dates and eventually bangs. The girls on this website are already interested in dating a foreigner and they will take all this very seriously. By far the lowest flake rate from this website. This website makes dating models easier than it should ever be.

#2 Recommended site: Tinder

Once you arrive  in Ukraine, you should power up the Tinder application right away. A lot of girls are starting to use this and like the previous website you will find a lot of girls who are more interested in meeting a foreigner/speaking English.

#3 Recommended site: Mamba.ru

The third dating website I recommend, that you should sign up for after the previous two, is Mamba.ru. This website is a local dating website. The girls on this website are not particularly searching for a foreigner and on here I had the lowest response rate and highest flake rate. However, I found a few hidden gems. There were some girls who didn’t know about other websites to meet foreigners or speak English so when I messaged them they were particularly excited. These few gems make this website worth it.

 

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Step 2: Choosing photos and what to have in your profile

I have written an entire book here: Elite Online Dating on the next two steps, but I will give you more broad advice and tips particular to Ukraine in this guide.

What photos to have to attract Ukrainian girls

The first thing you want to understand is that every single one of your pictures tells a story about you. It tells them how attractive you are, how your body language is, how much money you have, where you are from, what type of life you live and many other things. Most girls will not read your profile so you want to communicate as many positive things about you as possible in your photos.

Because you will be in Ukraine, you want to upload photos that are very different. Any photos from main places in USA are very good like in time square, Vegas or LA. Ukrainian girls also love the beach so if you have some good photos of you at a tropical beach, that’s a nice photo to have in there.

You should also know something plain and simple: money is important in Ukraine. Women want men with money. This is more socially accepted in Ukraine than in most of the world. If you are going to attract Ukrainian girls, you must accept this and you must use it.

To use it you want to upload of photos of you wearing a nice looking suite or you at an expensive looking party or house. These will send the message that you are a man that is secure financially.

You also obviously want to upload photos where you look the most attractive and your body language is the most attractive. Don’t be afraid to use some touch ups with Photoshop to make you as attractive as possible (for example clearing up skin, filling in thinning hair, etc.) because the girls will be doing similar things.

 

Your main photo

Now that you have found a few photos that will work well in your profile you must now choose the most important part of all of this, the profile picture. This is everything because it is where most girls decide to next you or talk to you. What you are looking for is a photo that looks good small, you look attractive in and has one of the positive things that I talked about in the previous paragraphs.

 

Your profile

Now you must write something about yourself in your profile. Keep it short and make sure to mention where you are from, that you are living in Ukraine and some positive things about yourself that your photos weren’t able to communicate. It’s not a bad idea to have it written in English and Russian (You can use Google translate) because there may be women interested who don’t speak much English.

 

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Step 3: What to say to Ukrainian girls online

If you used my first two recommendations, then most the girls will speak English, but on my #3 recommendation most the girls will speak only Russian. You can decide on if you want to learn the language or just use Google Translate because now it has a new update on the App that makes it so it can translate conversations in real time. It’s your choice.

With online dating, I recommend opening with a simple Hi or Priviet. The reason I don’t recommend more is because it makes you seem more try hard and will be harder to set up a date later on. The game is won and lost on the pictures you choose and the amount of women you message. So don’t worry about opening with a well thought out opener because it will appear well thought out.

From here you can follow what I talk about in my book on online dating, but basically you should be following up with normal conversation.

You: Hi

Her: Hi

You: How are you?

Her: Good and you?

You: Good, just getting used to living in your city. (Lets her know immediately that you are a foreigner, that you just arrived and that you are LIVING in her city. These are all things that most of them will like to hear.)

Her: How do you like my city? Where are you from? You are living here or just vacation?

From there just show you are a normal guy. Don’t try anything too fancy and eventually ask for her contact information, or if things are going really well, just set up a date and a time right there.

 

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Step 4: Doing the dates and sexualizing at the right time

 The first date with Ukrainian girls

When you set up the dates with your Ukrainian girls, you want to make sure that you set up the date in a location that it becomes clear that the two of you plan to go for a walk. The reason for this is because there are Ukrainian girls that may want to use you to go to a nice restaurant or something like that. You want to clear out those girls immediately. You also don’t want to go on an expensive first date because when it seems like you are buying her, she will actually become more difficult to bed.

On the first date, just have a normal conversation. Don’t forget to tease and be fun. Towards the end of the date you MUST go for the kiss at least a few times. This was something I had to learn the hard way. Ukrainian girls want manly men and a guy that’s interested in her that doesn’t have the balls to go for the kiss is not a man in her eyes. So always go for the kiss on the first date.

Ukrainian girls are not normally slutty, so going for the sex on the first date is usually going to hurt you more than help you unless she seems particularly slutty. I only had a couple same date lays in Ukraine and a ton of 2nd and 3rd date lays.

 

The second date with Ukrainian girls

You had a nice walk and got to know each other. For the next date I would always plan to do something very close to where I’m staying. If she sees you again without much problem you know that she is very interested and it’s time to use that to advance the relationship. You may decide to go get a Mcdonalds shake or ice cream (something I did a ton), then walk from there back to your place. You can use a lot of excuses to go there:

“Let me show you my pictures from back home.”

“My phone will die, I need to be online for work. My apartment is very close; can we just stop by there really fast so I can charge it a bit?”

Use something like that. When you get her back to your apartment it’s time to sexualize and see how far you can go with her. Like I said earlier, Ukrainian girls are reserved so you might not get to sex, but you have shown you are a sexual guy and you let her know that it’s what you expect from a girl you are dating.

I got quite a few 2nd date lays in Ukraine, but not near as many as I got on the next date.

 

The third date with Ukrainian girls

For the third date it’s time to let her know that if she wants something with you she’s going to have be sexual. Don’t literally tell her that, but tell her that for the next date you will do dinner and a movie at your apartment. If she likes you, she will accept. And because of all the work you did on the second date, chances are good sex will come very easy.

 

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 Beautiful Ukrainian girls are just a few hours away

Not only can you start talking to and seducing Ukrainian girls immediately by using the dating websites I recommended, but Ukraine is just a Plane ride away. Right now it’s the biggest bargain in Europe because of the value of dollar to the local money. It’s like 3x cheaper than it was 2 years ago.

Ukraine has a lot of things to do and you can meet Ukrainian girls while walking around or going to clubs (my favorite club in the world is in Ukraine). In terms of picking a city, the bigger the Ukrainian city, the better these 4 steps will work.

If you like thin, white, feminine women who are interested in foreign guys, then there is not a better country in the world for you (and I have been to a lot of countries). Plan your trip now.

 

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  • Daniel

    Would would you say are the other 3 top 4 countries for online dating?

    • I actually have a newsletter email that is the top 3 countries in the world for online dating, so you’ll have to get it for most of this infomration. But I will tell you #4. It’s Colombia

    • Andy

      how do i get a copy of that news letter which rates countries? thanks

  • Josh

    If you’re like 5 feet 6 inches (height) is that bad?

    • I won’t lie, it will hurt you a bit. But it’s not something you can’t make up for. Just up other attractive qualities and it won’t be a problem

    • brad

      just out of curiosity. how tall are you 20?

    • 6′

    • smooth guy

      How old are you?

    • stealthattack

      But your mother gave bjs to men of all heights.

    • stealthattack

      If you got money it won’t matter.

  • DrG

    @20, great article. I was waiting for Ukraine. What would you say is the optimum period of time to start pipelining…days or weeks before you hit a country? Also, ukrainedate.com that you recommended is a pay site, are you sure that many local girls are paying for it as well?

    • They have to pay nearly nothing compared to the men. But it’s the girls who were serious about a foreign guy

  • Klaus

    Nice to know about ukraine, by the way is it very important to know the local language? Or if u speak english thats enough?

    • it helps to know the local language, but I spoke very little and only hooked up with 1 girl that didnt speak english. With english though you will ok

  • Ron

    I was there a week and I think my short stay hurt my conversion rates- I got in a few 2nd dates and no 3rd dates before I had to leave.

    So I’m going to ask some questions to help optimize my time on my next visit.

    How long were you in Kiev? What is the minimum time you would recommend? Out of every ten first dates, how many girls did you meet for date two, and how many of those did you convert on date two? How many of the remainder did you meet for date three and how many of those did you convert?

    How many days did you schedule between each date with the same girl? How many hours did you block out for each date? I booked first dates for the 6pm-8pm slot (they had jobs so they weren’t free before 5pm), and second dates (where I might close) for 8:30pm – midnight, which really limited the number of slots I had available– any ideas on how to manage slots better?

    About half of my second dates ended up at my apartment, where I ran into much more resistance than any other country I’ve visited. Usually I won’t schedule a third date if I don’t close or nearly close on the second date, but it sounds like that’s not a good strategy for Kiev, right?

    Sorry for all the questions, but I think effective time management is key.

    • I would recommend at least a month in Ukraine to do any damage. The reason for that is because of how long it takes to get to sex. There are many girls that you just can’t bang before at least 3 dates. And it may take a couple weeks to get those 3 dates in.

      I was there for about 2 months.

      For times for 2nd date. If the first date went well, it really doesn’t matter the next time. But as a general rule.. the more the girl likes you, the sooner you should see her again. Dont’ let those feelings sizzle out. I would schedule whenever they could. There were girls that couldn’t go out so late because they lived with their parents or had to work early.

  • Johnny

    20
    Would you ever consider game in a cool US town (I know there aren’t many lol) like Bend, OR, Chico, CA, San Diego, Austin, Miami, etc.

    • Yeah you should game wherever you are. I gamed when I was in USA and it’s not necessarily tough. You just have to change your game a bit (more humor, sarcasm, arrogance and teasing) and you have to put up with more shit (girls are used to being put on a pedestal and having bf’s go out of their way for them). Dating outside of usa just gets a much higher return on investment.

  • Ignatius

    20 Nation
    If you were going to describe the quality of life (good weather, tasty food, buzzing night life, lots of things to see and do)- what countries have awesome quality of life?

    • Countries are too big and too different to say something like that, but I could name a few cities. Mexico City, Medellin and if you take away the weather I think most Eastern European cities actually have good quality of life.

  • Pecherin

    Outstanding blog. Eastern European girls are masters at making their photos look better than the reality. How do you avoid wasting your time on surprises? Skype interview before meeting?

    • I didn’t do hardly any skyping in Ukraine because it isn’t needed. I think if they are iffy then u meet at a convenient location close to you (something u should always do). Then, if they aren’t what u thought. Stay for 15 minutes and make an excuse to leave. Not so bad. But honestly i can only think of one time that happened in my near 2 months in Ukraine. There were more where they weren’t as attractive, but they were still obviously bangable.

  • GetItGoing

    Great article. Unfortunately the Ukrainian women I’ve known here (USA) are nice but 5/10 at best. But I’ve seen a few around that are quite attractive (& blonde, too).

    1. On the whole, how would you rank the women you saw there, on average? And approximate percentage of average vs. above-average women?

    If I use a website’s women listings for the Ukraine, I would get the impression there are many gorgeous women. For example the loveme.com site /Ukraine section has a huge amount of beautiful women compared to other countries. Haven’t tried the cupid site yet but I will.

    Considering the countries you’ve been too (and that your scale of what is attractive is better than the average American chump 😀 ) I’d like to know what a guy with travel experience can expect in terms of women there.

    2. I understand presentation will be important to these women, considering they’re supposedly much more concerned with looking nice. Did this matter when you were there? How did you dress for your dates?

    I bet it was awesome being there.

    ~ Gracias ~

    • I can tell you Ukrainian women (in Ukraine because I haven’t met many outside of Urkaine) are absolutely smoking hot. Hotter than all surrounding country imo.

      Actually I noticed that the men in Ukraine had terrible style. It seemed to mean very little to the women. Although sticking out with style could give you an advantage (i don’t have great style to be completely honest, just passable style that makes my body look better). It seems like a country where men bring security to the table and women bring looks and charm. Old fashioned in that sense.

      I got both mine from airbnb. In most places in the world foreigners will overpay. Also it has a lot to do with having to rent out places for shorter periods of time and furnished. If you go to local websites you can get around that.

    • GetItGoing

      Great feedback. Thanks!

      I still find latinas irresistible but I’ll be honest when I say I’m hard pressed to not be attracted to the women you mention and photos I’ve seen.

      Additionally, I’ve seen examples of Ukrainian women and their great attitude towards family, being feminine, and how to treat a man (along with a general good attitude).

    • Ukrainian women are just hot. But where they are lacking is personality. Their culture just tells them all a woman has to do is be feminine and beautiful

    • GetItGoing

      Interesting comment about the personality. Thanks.

    • np 😉

  • Brianmark

    I lived in Ukraine for 7 months once. I did most of my girls on the third date too. 60 dates in a month; how many different girls is that? What percentage of girls never progressed beyond one date, or never became sexual? Did girls you dated ever catch you with other girls? What cities did you play and which one do you prefer in Ukraine.

    • A lot of questions.

      Maybe 25 different girls
      maybe 40
      things like that have rarely happened to me in any country because i respond in the right way
      Girls there never did, but some new i had others because of hairs or ukrainian cooked meals in my fridge

  • Brianmark

    I can’t cook. What do you cook for Ukrainian girls to invite them back to your apartment/

    • have them cook for you. Or also order some food and watch a movie. By the 3rd date they should be down.

  • James

    3 Dates? Jesus Christ!

  • Sam

    All you’re going to get with this guide is a shit load of gold diggers. Bullshit article. I’m lived and dated a ton of women in both countries. In fact trying to meet women online, if the above website is in fact legit, AND NOT ONE OF THE MANY UKRAINIAN SCAMS, which compose a rampant scam “industry” in the country, which is literally 99.99 percent of ukrainian “dating” sites where you’re not actually talking to the girl in the photos, but a “translator”. The best way to meet a girl is to just pick her up in person, not online…especially in ukraine. Stereotypes in ukraine about foreigners are so bad that most of them will not be interested in talking to you period, UNLESS she’s a gold digger (which most there are). And most guys attempting this will end up getting used and that’s it. But in that case if buying a girl off is your forte, go ahead and try it out. It has nothing to do with her actually liking you though or even having much respect for you (i’m just being totally honest about this country in particular). And to be completely frank, the majority of guys trying this will be simply screwed out of their money. I know this seems like an easy route to get a hot girl, but it’s harder than a lot of other countries you could be trying instead. An honestly, i don’t know why out of all of eastern europe fellow american men are so fixated on ukraine, why not another country in eastern europe with equally hot girls? Honestly i think it’s just marketing from those scam companies. And guys’ dellusion that oh they’re really poor so i can just buy them. And I’m sorry to say this, but the reality in ukraine is that they see westerners in urkaine and literally think every time (i know this cuz i’ve lived there and speak russian so i’ve talked to the locals) “oh, there’s another loser from a western country who got scammed again.” Ukrainians do not even have respect for foreigners. Anyway, don’t shoot the messenger, but really I want things to go well for whoever reads this and i strongly advise simply going to another country. There’s probably no other country so overrun by sex tourism.

    • Christian

      haha pretty spot on my friend

  • Surprise

    I am Ukrainian woman. I would say, don’t be very naive guys. Not all women here dream to leave the country. As an ukrainian woman i don’t use any dating site or app, more than that any of my girls friends doesn’t use all these sites mentioned above. We live real life. I used to use it when i was 20-24. Maybe 20Nation picks up young girls who are a bit stupid. I used tinder a bit and met only one man from tinder. I can’t say that tinder is the best dating app. 20Nation sorry but after i have read some of your articles seems that the meaning of your life is to travel aroung the world and fuck women in different countries. High values.

  • From my findings so far on Badoo before investing in Cupid, anything borderline 7 or above is total cunt sauce. Although, Badoo is usually full of cunts everywhere with the occasional top-notch bang coming from it. The funniest part about Badoo these days is they “monetize” the women according to hotness.

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